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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby BigmanU » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:05 pm

Red Rooster wrote:
BigmanU wrote:Like I said previously doing it your way has done nothing for your NCAA aspirations and you can't prove that it has. 2 dances in 15 years!!!!

You better hope you make it this year, It may be a total reset. Ponds is a potential pro and Lovett is just gone. Total Reset!

Your panties are in a total bunk because someone disagrees with you. Pull your skirt up.


Obviously, they wasn't good enough. If they was good enough, then a tough schedule or lack of wouldn't matter. Obviously, you can't comprehend such things. But, I could say, it prepared them for conference play, as there was only three teams capable of beating St. John's at home in Villanova, Xavier, and Creighton.

What did Marquette weak schedule do for them two years ago? Kept them at home from both the NCAA and NIT. Their schedule was slightly better last season, and even going 10-8 in a major conference was only good enough to warrant a 10-seed. What did Rutgers weak schedule do for them last season? 11-2 before conference play. Guess who gave them those two losses before conference? Two, high-major teams in Miami and Seton Hall. What did Rutgers do in conference play? I'll assume you're smart enough to figure out that one. You should always go into a season to put your team into a situation where they can actually make the NCAA Tournament.

Besides, I've already used other teams who played tough schedules one season, and went on to do good things the following season. Theory and fallacies debunked.

You hope they're gone. If LoVett leaves, we have a 16.5ppg scorer in Mikey Dixon, who was one of the best players last season in the MAAC, as a frosh. Regardless, I doubt either player is gone after the season. Nice, wishful thinking on your part, though.

My panties are far from being in a bunch. If you can't come with logical or critical thinking/opinions or facts, then I'm gonna poke holes in your argument. Your argument has a ton of holes in it that has been debunked by me and several fans of your program. Stop bringing the half-baked logic and fallacies. Keep it movin', fool.


NCAA tourney results (2 bids in 15 years) both 1st round flameouts
W-L record w/Mullin (8-24) & (14-19)

Prove how the scheduling benefited your program ????????????????????????????????????
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby Red Rooster » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:07 pm

BigmanU wrote:
Red Rooster wrote:
BigmanU wrote:Like I said previously doing it your way has done nothing for your NCAA aspirations and you can't prove that it has. 2 dances in 15 years!!!!

You better hope you make it this year, It may be a total reset. Ponds is a potential pro and Lovett is just gone. Total Reset!

Your panties are in a total bunk because someone disagrees with you. Pull your skirt up.


Obviously, they wasn't good enough. If they was good enough, then a tough schedule or lack of wouldn't matter. Obviously, you can't comprehend such things. But, I could say, it prepared them for conference play, as there was only three teams capable of beating St. John's at home in Villanova, Xavier, and Creighton.

What did Marquette weak schedule do for them two years ago? Kept them at home from both the NCAA and NIT. Their schedule was slightly better last season, and even going 10-8 in a major conference was only good enough to warrant a 10-seed. What did Rutgers weak schedule do for them last season? 11-2 before conference play. Guess who gave them those two losses before conference? Two, high-major teams in Miami and Seton Hall. What did Rutgers do in conference play? I'll assume you're smart enough to figure out that one. You should always go into a season to put your team into a situation where they can actually make the NCAA Tournament.

Besides, I've already used other teams who played tough schedules one season, and went on to do good things the following season. Theory and fallacies debunked.

You hope they're gone. If LoVett leaves, we have a 16.5ppg scorer in Mikey Dixon, who was one of the best players last season in the MAAC, as a frosh. Regardless, I doubt either player is gone after the season. Nice, wishful thinking on your part, though.

My panties are far from being in a bunch. If you can't come with logical or critical thinking/opinions or facts, then I'm gonna poke holes in your argument. Your argument has a ton of holes in it that has been debunked by me and several fans of your program. Stop bringing the half-baked logic and fallacies. Keep it movin', fool.


NCAA tourney results (2 bids in 15 years) both 1st round flameouts
W-L record w/Mullin (8-24) & (14-19)

Prove how it benefited your program ????????????????????????????????????


I've already proved it with other programs, and I've already stated on several occasions, if they were good enough, then a tough schedule or lack of wouldn't particularly matter. I've debunked your theories and fallacies numerous times.

Besides, no one ever said, it benefited the St. John's program. That is some junk you came up with. You know what that is.... A red herring fallacy. No one ever said, it actually benefited St. John's program, but you came up with it to deflect the attention away from Georgetown's horrible schedule. Red herring, hoser.

By the way, reading is fundamental, moron.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby BigmanU » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:09 pm

Obviously, they wasn't good enough. If they was good enough, then a tough schedule or lack of wouldn't matter. Obviously, you can't comprehend such things. But, I could say, it prepared them for conference play, as there was only three teams capable of beating St. John's at home in Villanova, Xavier, and Creighton.

What did Marquette weak schedule do for them two years ago? Kept them at home from both the NCAA and NIT. Their schedule was slightly better last season, and even going 10-8 in a major conference was only good enough to warrant a 10-seed. What did Rutgers weak schedule do for them last season? 11-2 before conference play. Guess who gave them those two losses before conference? Two, high-major teams in Miami and Seton Hall. What did Rutgers do in conference play? I'll assume you're smart enough to figure out that one. You should always go into a season to put your team into a situation where they can actually make the NCAA Tournament.

Besides, I've already used other teams who played tough schedules one season, and went on to do good things the following season. Theory and fallacies debunked.

You hope they're gone. If LoVett leaves, we have a 16.5ppg scorer in Mikey Dixon, who was one of the best players last season in the MAAC, as a frosh. Regardless, I doubt either player is gone after the season. Nice, wishful thinking on your part, though.

My panties are far from being in a bunch. If you can't come with logical or critical thinking/opinions or facts, then I'm gonna poke holes in your argument. Your argument has a ton of holes in it that has been debunked by me and several fans of your program. Stop bringing the half-baked logic and fallacies. Keep it movin', fool.[/quote]

NCAA tourney results (2 bids in 15 years) both 1st round flameouts
W-L record w/Mullin (8-24) & (14-19)

Prove how it benefited your program ????????????????????????????????????
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I've already proved it with other programs, and I've already stated on several occasions, if they were good enough, then a tough schedule or lack of wouldn't particularly matter. I've debunked your theories and fallacies numerous times.

By the way, reading is fundamental, moron.[/quote]

Marquette was 8-10 in conference play. What did you prove? HOW DID THE SCHEDULING BENEFIT YOUR PROGRAM??? You still haven't answered the question. Why take advice from St. Johns or DePaul on how to run a program?
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby Red Rooster » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:11 pm

BigmanU wrote:HOW DID THE SCHEDULING BENEFIT YOUR PROGRAM??? You still haven't answered the question[/b].


Haha! Read above, moron. It's a red herring fallacy you're presenting when no one ever said it benefited the program. You said it. No one else said such a thing. Deflecting and taking attention away from the actual topic is a red herring. You're silly. LOL

So, tell us how it'll benefit Georgetown's program moving forward and why playing the worst schedule in the last 13 years of college basketball had to be done? Please attempt to enlighten us.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby BigmanU » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:38 pm

Red Rooster wrote:
BigmanU wrote:HOW DID THE SCHEDULING BENEFIT YOUR PROGRAM??? You still haven't answered the question[/b].


Haha! Read above, moron. It's a red herring fallacy you're presenting when no one ever said it benefited the program. You said it. No one else said such a thing. Deflecting and taking attention away from the actual topic is a red herring. You're silly. LOL

So, tell us how it'll benefit Georgetown's program moving forward and why playing the worst schedule in the last 13 years of college basketball had to be done? Please attempt to enlighten us.


Georgetown's results are yet to be determined the rest of this year & next. I'm more than open in having this discussion the end of year #2 if you like.

St. John's results have been (8-24) 15-16' & (14-19) 16-17'. Don't understand why you fight so hard for the strength of schedule argument, when it hasn't proven beneficially to your squad. Insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby Red Rooster » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:42 pm

BigmanU wrote:
Red Rooster wrote:
BigmanU wrote:HOW DID THE SCHEDULING BENEFIT YOUR PROGRAM??? You still haven't answered the question[/b].


Haha! Read above, moron. It's a red herring fallacy you're presenting when no one ever said it benefited the program. You said it. No one else said such a thing. Deflecting and taking attention away from the actual topic is a red herring. You're silly. LOL

So, tell us how it'll benefit Georgetown's program moving forward and why playing the worst schedule in the last 13 years of college basketball had to be done? Please attempt to enlighten us.


Results are yet to be determined the rest of this year & next.

St. John's results have been (8-24) 15-16' & (14-19) 16-17'. Don't understand why you fight so hard for the strength of schedule argument, when it hasn't proven beneficially to your squad. Insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results.


Once again, why do you continue to bring up this red herring? No one ever said such a thing, but you. All you're doing is deflecting away from the original topic because you have no grounds to argue on and it's been debunked numerous times.

So, do I have name the teams who play solid-to-tough schedules on a yearly basis, and it has helped their SOS, RPI, and ability to play tough games? Again, it doesn't matter whether it's been beneficial to my squad or not. Obviously, my squad wasn't good enough (which, I've stated numerous times). But, you continue to ignore what I've brought to the table with other teams, and wanna continue to focus on St. John's when I or anyone has ever said their schedule(s) has benefited them. I've shown where it has been beneficial (to others), nonetheless.

You can't comprehend and continue to bring fallacies to the table. You are truly a moron. Grade A simpleton!
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby ecasadoSBU » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:50 pm

I'm going to save this thread and come back in Year 2/3 to see whether this strategy worked for Georgetown or not. I think that's better than going on a never ending pissing match like I see above.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby Red Rooster » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:56 pm

ecasadoSBU wrote:I'm going to save this thread and come back in Year 2/3 to see whether this strategy worked for Georgetown or not. I think that's better than going on a never ending pissing match like I see above.


It doesn't have anything to do with next season or the season after that one. You play each season for a chance to participate in the tournament. This simply isn't a tournament-like resume' schedule. Not even close. It puts too much pressure on the team in conference play and the conference tournament to attain those goals. Losing three or four games against decent-to-quality competition shouldn't make or break a team in this early juncture. If it does, then the team likely wasn't good anyhow or has too fragile of a psyche. Again, the last team to ever play such a schedule was coming off a murder scandal.

But, the moron continues to mention St. John's and how a tougher schedule didn't benefit them when no one has ever said it did. Whether, one perceive they have a good team or not, you still want to challenge your team a few times in non-conference play. Many coaches do it on a routine basis. It helps with the (team and conference) resume' and could potentially (I had to put this word in bold for the dullard) prepare your team when similar or better competition approaches.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby NJRedman » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:11 pm

Heres how it hurts Georgetown. Recruits want to play in big time games. You think recruits rather play in the PK80 or against teams with 300+ RPIs in empty arenas?

Stop with this junk that it had to be done. No one is saying they had to play every single game against power conference programs but you got to play SOMEONE with a pulse for crying out loud. The fact that some of you are actually talking about the post season is laughable.
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Re: DePaul, Georgetown and Scheduling

Postby hoyahooligan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:18 pm

I don't agree with our scheduling this year and I pray to god we don't have a schedule near this bad ever again.

But we won't know the impact of the schedule till the end of the year.

Who knows maybe the confidence gained will spark an over achievement and the Hoyas will emerge with a good enough BE record to get a bid despite the soft OOC schedule.

Maybe it will lead to us falling flat on our face come BE play.

Most likely we're not good enough for the tournament and it won't matter what our OOC schedule was this year in terms of making the NCAA tournament.

There are some possible PR benefits from racking up wins as casual fans do not pay attention to schedules at all. They'll see an increase in wins under Ewing and will think the ship is righted whether or not that's true. Nothing helps attendance like winning. Obviously playing the same schedule next year may dampen those gains, but it could work out. We won't know.
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