DeltaV wrote:Jet915 wrote:Nice editorial on how the Big East and other conferences like the Big Ten are more than just athletics...
http://www.omaha.com/article/20130707/NEWS0802/707079960
Another reason I like Richmond (or even Davidson) to be the potential partner for St. Louis if 12 happens. Very good schools, and expands the conference footprint down south towards the heart of the ACC.
Dave wrote:redmen9194 wrote:Nova will never step up to FSB football.
St Johns will never make it to a final four.
Ok, never is a long time. Neither will happen in the next few years. But both have a chance of happening someday. Although St Johns odds are longer.
yorost wrote:St. Louis and Dayton fit best. VCU also fits but would be the lowest ranked national school (not by a lot, though). Davidson or Richmond would be a quality academic add that doesn't fit. They're not worse, but if it weren't for sports you wouldn't be seeing them pop up in the same conversations as our schools.
Bostonspider wrote:yorost wrote:St. Louis and Dayton fit best. VCU also fits but would be the lowest ranked national school (not by a lot, though). Davidson or Richmond would be a quality academic add that doesn't fit. They're not worse, but if it weren't for sports you wouldn't be seeing them pop up in the same conversations as our schools.
Not sure what you mean by this. Richmond, Villanova and Georgetown are often mentioned in the same academic circles. PC, Creighton, XU and Butler are similar if not as highly academically ranked. Davidson has an even better academic reputation, though is more truely a small liberal arts college, while Richmond has a Law School and Business School.
redmen9194 wrote:Dave wrote:redmen9194 wrote:Nova will never step up to FSB football.
St Johns will never make it to a final four.
Ok, never is a long time. Neither will happen in the next few years. But both have a chance of happening someday. Although St Johns odds are longer.
St. John's will make it to a final four before Nova moves up to FBS football and I even venture to say before Nova makes another Final Four. Don't take it so personal Dave, but to suggest that Nova is going to move up to FBS football make zero sense at this point. .... Just like UConn is not being invited to the Big East... We do not need any of the football schools...
NovaSpider wrote:Bostonspider wrote:yorost wrote:St. Louis and Dayton fit best. VCU also fits but would be the lowest ranked national school (not by a lot, though). Davidson or Richmond would be a quality academic add that doesn't fit. They're not worse, but if it weren't for sports you wouldn't be seeing them pop up in the same conversations as our schools.
Not sure what you mean by this. Richmond, Villanova and Georgetown are often mentioned in the same academic circles. PC, Creighton, XU and Butler are similar if not as highly academically ranked. Davidson has an even better academic reputation, though is more truely a small liberal arts college, while Richmond has a Law School and Business School.
I agree with you here. Richmond has a very good reputation and is definitely mentioned in the same breath as Villanova. Georgetown probably has a better rep than both of them, but all three are in the conversation. RU is probably more well respected in DC-Boston corridor than most of the schools in the conference (rightly or wrongly). I know nothing about Davidson, except that it is way out of the geographic footprint of the league (neither good nor bad in my opinion).
I would love to see Richmond get the nod, albeit for the selfish reason of being able to see a Nova game live each year. Unfortunately while academically they do match up, athletically I don't think they do.
redmen9194 wrote: You Nova fans have got to jump on board here - you guys keep looking for the negative. We do not need any of the football schools - we are going to make more money than we ever would have in the Big East even if the billion dollar ESPN contract was approved, Have faith Dave - we are in the holy land of hoops!
yorost wrote:I know neither are too far off from Butler or Providence, especially Richmond, but still, I think you'll find Butler and Providence have more commitment to grad studies. If you already think Butler or Providence are outliers in the conference, Richmond and Davidson would be more so.
Bostonspider wrote:yorost wrote:I know neither are too far off from Butler or Providence, especially Richmond, but still, I think you'll find Butler and Providence have more commitment to grad studies. If you already think Butler or Providence are outliers in the conference, Richmond and Davidson would be more so.
Richmond has more graduate students than both Butler and Providence, both in percentage and in actual numbers. Davidson I agree is still very much an undergraduate College.
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