2017-18 Big East Rankings

[NovaYanks10]

POY - Marcus Foster - CREI

1st
Jalen Brunson - NOVA
Khyri Thomas - CREI
Kyron Cartwright - PROV
Kelan Martin - BUT
Shamorie Ponds - SJU

2nd
Desi Rodriguez - HALL
Markus Howard - MARQ
Quentin Goodin - XAV
Marcus Lovett - SJU
Rodney Bullock - PROV

3rd
Mikal Bridges - NOVA
Donte Divincenzo - NOVA
Kadeen Carrington - HALL
Kamar Baldwin - BUT
Eli Cain - DEP


Assuming Patton, Blueitt, Sumner, Delgado are out.

[Jet915]

1st
Jalen Brunson - NOVA
Khyri Thomas - CREI
Kyron Cartwright - PROV
Kelan Martin - BUT
Shamorie Ponds - SJU

2nd
Desi Rodriguez - HALL
Markus Howard - MARQ
Quentin Goodin - XAV
Marcus Lovett - SJU
Rodney Bullock - PROV

3rd
Mikal Bridges - NOVA
Donte Divincenzo - NOVA
Kadeen Carrington - HALL
Kamar Baldwin - BUT
Eli Cain - DEP


Assuming Patton, Blueitt, Sumner, Delgado are out.

Patton and Sumner are definitely out. Like your enthusiasm on Thomas, I think he's our best overall player but no Foster at all?

[FriarsForever]

Okay, so what will the All Big East teams look like next year? Delgado and Bluiett are the only question marks at this point right?

1st:
Brunson
Foster
Martin
Bluiett
Delgado

2nd:
Carrington
Ponds
Rodriguez
Bullock
Spellman

3rd:
Lovett
DiVincenzo
Macura
Cain
Govan

Big East will have a ton of guys that can fill it up next year.

Honorable mention: Emmitt Holt, Kyron Cartwright, Myles Powell, Markus Howard, Khyri Thomas, Jalen Lindsay

Kyron Cartwright Honorable Mention Please don't make me start again.

[billyjack]

Hey guys,
Good time to update your Scholarship Charts on the pinned thread.
I just fixed the Friars'.

[scoscox]

The list shows how much talent is returning. It's def a tough one to put together. For me replace Bullock with Cartwright, Divincenzo with Bridges and Cain with K Thomas. I would prob put Baldwin ahead of Lovett too.

I like the Bullock, Cartwright switch. I felt bad leaving him off the list and didn't feel great about Bullock. I really don't understand why Nova fans are so high on Bridges, but I absolutely think Donte will be a stud. I can't really see Baldwin over Lovett or Khyri over Cain either. Lovett was basically just a better version of Baldwin last year.

[scoscox]

Kyron Cartwright Honorable Mention Please don't make me start again.

Kyron is not as good of a scorer as Ponds, Lovett, Carrington, or Brunson, but may be the best distributor. Tough call and certainly a disagreement I can't begrudge.

It was hard to find a spot for everyone. I also put it together in teams, meaning I tried to look for a 1,2,3,4, & 5 for each team for the most part, which kinda skewed some stuff. Like Govan and Spellma, for instance, probably would have been left off otherwise and Cartwright would've easily made a team. I put 4 friars on this list I don't have it out for them.

[scoscox]

1st
Jalen Brunson - NOVA
Khyri Thomas - CREI
Kyron Cartwright - PROV
Kelan Martin - BUT
Shamorie Ponds - SJU

2nd
Desi Rodriguez - HALL
Markus Howard - MARQ
Quentin Goodin - XAV
Marcus Lovett - SJU
Rodney Bullock - PROV

3rd
Mikal Bridges - NOVA
Donte Divincenzo - NOVA
Kadeen Carrington - HALL
Kamar Baldwin - BUT
Eli Cain - DEP


Assuming Patton, Blueitt, Sumner, Delgado are out.

Marcus Foster is virtually a shoe in 1st teamer. I'm guessing you forgot him. I think Macura has the best chance of anyone from X making a team next year w/o Bluiett, but it'd be great if Quentin makes that jump.

[GumbyDamnit!]

I really don't understand why Nova fans are so high on Bridges, but I absolutely think Donte will be a stud. I can't really see Baldwin over Lovett or Khyri over Cain either. Lovett was basically just a better version of Baldwin last year.

I think because Nova fans watch every minute of every game and see firsthand how much Bridges affects the game. Check the KenPom stats on Bridges...I believe he was top 5 in the conference in efficiency both offensively and defensively. Kid is a stud and with Hart gone fully expect him to take a larger role next to year.

Re: Baldwin vs Lovett, I just think Baldwin is the better all-around player. Plays both ends well. I think Lovett isn't there yet defensively.

Don't think there is much of a comparison between Thomas and Cain. Like Bridges take a look at KT's efficiency #s. Great player IMO. Cain is just a good player surrounded by meh so he stands out.

And regarding Cartwright, would not be surprised to see him 1st team All-BE. Baller.

[scoscox]

I think because Nova fans watch every minute of every game and see firsthand how much Bridges affects the game. Check the KenPom stats on Bridges...I believe he was top 5 in the conference in efficiency both offensively and defensively. Kid is a stud and with Hart gone fully expect him to take a larger role next to year.

Re: Baldwin vs Lovett, I just think Baldwin is the better all-around player. Plays both ends well. I think Lovett isn't there yet defensively.

Don't think there is much of a comparison between Thomas and Cain. Like Bridges take a look at KT's efficiency #s. Great player IMO. Cain is just a good player surrounded by meh so he stands out.

And regarding Cartwright, would not be surprised to see him 1st team All-BE. Baller.

Well he's only taking like 6 shots a game and half of them are dunks. His defense is great. He will be a good player, but I don't see his usage ever being dominant for Nova's offense. I mean Nova guys were telling me how he was better than Sumner last year, so I really only meant it in that context. I still think DiVincenzo will be far and away their primary scorer, followed by Brunson, Spellman, and Bridges.

Fair enough, Lovett was a much better offensive player though, both scoring and assisting. KT and Cain are pretty comparable KT is 116 + 99, Cain is 101 + 110 for ORtg and DRtg. Cain is a good player surrounded by meh and KT was a good player surrounded by good players. Both are still good players. Foster will still be their primary scorer next year, but Cain will be DePaul's focus.

Cartwright could very well make first team. It's tough to select between Brunson, Ponds, Carrington, and Lovett. I could comfortably exchange any of them

[GumbyDamnit!]

Bridges only shot 6 times a game b/c Nova's first 3 options were Hart, Jenkins and Brunson. Also the kid shot 39% from 3 and is a great FT shooter, so it's not like all he can do is dunk. Add to that his being a spider on D.

I will concede that MB was not aggressive enough on O but I think you'll see Jay push him more into that role this year. Much like Hart was as a Frosh and Soph he just let the game come to him and wasn't as assertive as he could have been.

Nova fans who watch him all the time love him. He has all the tools. I guess we'll all see next year...