ACC Last 5 Years OOC...

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I also posted this on that other site...

The ACC:
Here is the compilation of results in the ACC over the past 5 years, for their 12 members (regular season, prior to expansion, including Maryland, excluding Syracuse, Pitt and Notre Dame (and Louisville))(note that majors are the 5 other power hoops conferences; midmajors are the multiple-bid conferences-- the A-10, West Coast, Missouri Valley, Mountain West, plus Memphis, Butler, VCU and George Mason):

ACC vs majors: 117-110 (.515 winning pct).
ACC vs midmajors: 67-42 (.615 winning pct).
ACC vs lower conference teams: 413-44 (.904 winning pct).

ACC vs majors, last 5 years:
Ga Tech 5-12.
Wake 5-6.
Virginia 10-10.
Boston College 14-5.
Clemson 6-8.
NC State 6-15.
Virginia Tech 12-9.
Miami (Fla) 7-7.
Maryland 7-10.
Duke 22-5.
Florida State 8-13.
North Carolina 15-10.
TOTAL: 117-110 (.515 winning pct) <---lower than Big East.

a reminder:
BIG EAST vs majors, last 5 years
Providence 4-8.
Marquette 10-10.
Georgetown 9-5.
Seton Hall 6-6.
DePaul 4-10.
Creighton 9-5.
Villanova 6-4.
St John's 6-11.
Xavier 18-11.
Butler 14-9.
TOTAL 86-79 (.521 winning pct) <---higher than ACC last 5 years.

Just messing around with some numbers in the past 5 years:
If Duke (which is 22-5 vs majors and 14-1 vs midmajors) is removed from the totals:
- ACC not counting Duke vs majors: 95-105 (.475 winning pct).
- ACC not counting Duke vs midmajors: 53-41 (.564 winning pct).
- The .475 winning pct (after removing 1 team, Duke) vs majors over a 5 year range is very low for a conference that claims to be elite.
- Only 4 of the ACC's 12 schools were over .500 vs majors (BC, Va Tech, UNC, Duke).
- Only 2 of the ACC's 12 schools have made the Elite-8 in the past 9 years (UNC, Duke).
- Is this a conference that has become a 2 team group with a bunch of run-of-the-mill teams?

Do the Big East numbers compare favorably? I'd definitely say yes.

Looking at next year, adding 3 Big East schools provides a good boost:
- Syracuse has been completely amazing in the last 5 years-- an incredible 15-0 vs majors.
- Pitt is 7-4 vs majors.
- Notre Dame is 8-9 vs majors.
- Removing Maryland, adding Syracuse, Pitt and Notre Dame along with Duke and the 10 others puts the ACC at:
- ACC vs majors using 2014 schools: 140-113 (.553 winning pct).
- ACC vs midmajors using 2014 schools: 88-43 (.672 winning pct).
- ACC vs lowers using 2014 schools: 519-44 (.922 winning pct).

Big East defectors vs majors:
Syracuse 15-0.
Pitt 7-4.
Notre Dame 8-9.

School breakdown follows below:

Any thoughts or comments?

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GEORGIA TECH, WAKE FOREST and VIRGINIA:

Georgia Tech:
Ga Tech is 46-20 ooc in the last 5 years (regular season).
Ga Tech is 5-12 vs major conf teams.
Ga Tech is 5-4 vs mid-majors (A-10, WCC, plus George Mason).
The Yellow Jackets are 36-4 vs lower conf teams.

Ga Tech wins vs majors were:
Georgia +8, Georgia +12, Southern Cal +26, Vandy +12, Georgia +5.
Ga Tech losses vs majors were:
Cal-11, Illinois-13, LSU-9, Northwestern-16, Alabama-25, Syracuse-4, Northwestern-20, Georgia-1, Georgia-7, Penn State-2, Southern Cal-19, Alabama-11.

Ga Tech wins vs mids were:
Fordham +25, St Mary's +9, Richmond +13, Geo Mason +8, Pepperdine +28.
Ga Tech losses vs mids were:
St Joe's-13, Fordham-6, Charlotte-OT, Dayton-4.

Ga Tech losses to minors were:
Tulane-5, Kennesaw State-17, Siena-5, Illinois-Chicago-6.

Yellow Jackets in the NCAA's:
2010, W vs Okla State +5, L vs Ohio State-9.



Wake Forest:
Wake is also 46-20 ooc in the last 5 years (regular season).
Wake is 5-6 vs major conf teams.
Wake is 6-7 vs midmajor conf teams.
The Demon Deacons are 35-7 vs lower conf teams.

Wake wins vs majors were:
Texas Tech +9, Nebraska +2, Iowa +3, Baylor +13, Indiana +25.
Wake losses vs majors were:
UConn-6, Nebraska-16, Seton Hall-4, Arizona State-28, Seton Hall-14, Purdue-11.

Wake wins vs mids were:
Xavier +7, Gonzaga +2, Richmond +OT, Xavier +OT, Richmond +7, Brigham Young +7.
Wake losses vs mids were:
Richmond-2, Dayton-4, Richmond-8, VCU-21, Xavier-8, Richmond-16, Gonzaga-10.

Wake losses vs lower conf were:
Iona-26, Wofford-4, Stetson-10, Winthrop-9, Unc-Wilmington-12, Presbyterian-2, William & Mary-10.

Wake in the NCAAs:
2009, L vs Cleveland State-15.
2010, W vs Texas +OT, L vs Kentucky-30.



Virginia:
Virginia is 47-18 ooc the last 5 years (regular season).
Virginia is 10-10 vs major conf teams.
Virginia is 1-4 vs midmajor conferences.
The Cavaliers are 36-4 vs lower conferences.

Wins vs majors were:
Wisconsin +6, Tennessee +8, Michigan +12, Oregon +13, LSU +5, Oklahoma +18, Minnesota +8, Oregon +15, LSU +14, South Florida +2.
Losses vs majors were:
Stanford-21, Washington-43, Iowa State-13, South Florida-17, Stanford-5, Penn State-3, Auburn-1, Syracuse-3, Minnesota-10, Auburn-2.

The Virginia win vs a midmajor was:
Drake +8.
Virginia midmajor losses were:
Geo Mason-4, TCU-2, Wichita State-12, Xavier-14.

The losses to low conf were:
Old Dominion-2, Delaware-6, Seattle-6, Liberty-4.

Virginia in the NCAAs:
2012, L Florida-26.

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BOSTON COLLEGE, CLEMSON and NC STATE:

Boston College:
BC is 44-26 in 70 ooc games the last 5 years (regular season).
BC is 14-5 vs major conf teams.
BC is 4-10 vs midmajor conferences.
The Eagles are 26-11 vs lower conferences.

BC wins vs majors were:
Penn State +12, Providence +3, Auburn +1, aTm +2, Indiana +12, Providence +2, South Carolina +15, Cal +22, Providence +5, Michigan +4, South Carolina +9, St John's +12, Iowa +2, Providence +5.
BC losses vs majors were:
Baylor -10, Penn State-8, Providence-7, Wisconsin-7, Purdue-7.

BC midmajor wins were:
Umass +5, Umass +12, San Francisco +22, Umass +OT.
BC midmajor losses were:
Dayton-16, Rhody-OT, Umass-36, Saint Louis-11, New Mexico-18, Rhody-2, St Joe's-4, Northern Iowa-12, Rhody-11, Saint Louis-3.

The 11 BC lower conference losses were:
Charleston-4, Bryant-2, Harvard-16, Holy Cross-22, Boston University-14, Harvard-21, Yale-8, Harvard-9, Maine-1, Harvard-7, Harvard-12.

BC in the NCAAs:
2009, L Southern Cal-17.



Clemson:
Clemson is 52-15 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Clemson is 6-8 vs majors.
Clemson is 5-1 vs midmajors.
The Tigers are 41-6 vs lowers.

Clemson wins vs majors were:
South Carolina +9, Iowa +16, Seton Hall +OT, South Carolina +11, Illinois +2, South Carolina +11.
Clemson losses vs majors were:
Arizona-12, Purdue-12, South Carolina-3, Arizona-16, Michigan-8, South Carolina-4, aTm-9, Illinois-2.

Clemson wins vs midmajors were:
Southern Illinois +OT, Butler +1, TCU +12, Charlotte +1, Temple +4.
Clemson loss vs midmajors was:
Gonzaga-8.

Clemson losses to lower conference teams were:
Coastal Carolina-23, UTEP-13, Hawaii-7, College of Charleston-3, Coastal Carolina-1, Old Dominion-1

Clemson in the NCAAs:
2011, W UAB +18, L West Virginia-8.



NC State:
NC State is 54-16 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
NC State is 6-15 vs majors.
NC State is 4-0 vs midmajors.
The Wolfpack is 44-1 vs lowers.

Wolfpack wins vs majors were:
Penn State +17, UConn +4, Stanford +9, Texas +3, Marquette +4, Auburn +2.
Wolfpack losses vs majors were:
Oklahoma State-20, Michigan-7, Vandy-7, Indiana-11, Stanford-4, Syracuse-16, Arizona-10, Georgetown-15, Wisconsin-39, Syracuse-6, Northwestern-12, Arizona-2, Florida-OT, Marquette-3, Florida-2.

NC State wins vs midmajors were:
St Bonaventure +19, St Bonaventure +2, San Diego +22, George Mason +13.

NC State loss vs lower conference team was:
Davidson-5.

NC State in the NCAAs:
2013, L Temple-4.
2012, W San Diego State +13, W Georgetown +3, L Kansas-3.

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VIRGINIA TECH, MIAMI (FLA) and MARYLAND:

Virginia Tech:
Va Tech is 53-16 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Va Tech is 12-9 vs majors.
Va Tech is 6-6 vs midmajors.
The Hokies are 35-1 vs lowers.

Hokie wins vs majors were:
Okla State +10, Iowa +16, Okla State +2, Okla State +6, Okla State +5, Penn State +10, Mississippi State +31, Iowa +6, Georgia +12, Penn State +2, Seton Hall +OT, St John's +14.
Hokie losses vs majors were:
West Virginia-1, Syracuse-11, Minnesota-3, Kansas State-8, Kansas State-16, Purdue-OT, Seton Hall-4, Wisconsin-2, Georgia-1.

Hokie wins vs midmajors were:
Rhode Island +19, Bradley +OT, Rhode Island +11, St Bona +9, St Bona +OT, Richmond +14.
Hokie losses vs midmajors were:
Colorado State-36, Brigham Young-26, Brigham Young-2, UNLV-12, Temple-11, Xavier-OT.

The Hokie loss to a lower conference team was:
Georgia Southern-5.




Miami (Fla):
Miami (Fla) is 55-12 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Miami (Fla) is 7-7 vs majors.
Miami (Fla) is 8-3 vs midmajors.
The Hurricanes are 40-2 vs lowers.

Hurricane wins vs majors were:
Rutgers +15, West Va +3, Ole Miss +13, Minnesota +5, South Carolina +15, Kentucky +6, St John's +14.
Hurricane losses vs majors were:
Arizona-9, Ole Miss-OT, Purdue-11, West Va-11, Rutgers-15, Connecticut-13, Ohio State-5.

Miami (Fla) wins vs midmajors were:
UMass +13, Charlotte +31, LaSalle +17, UMass +8, Charlotte +15, Pepperdine +35, Pepperdine +23, San Diego +35.
Miami (Fla) losses vs midmajors were:
Indiana State-OT, Memphis-17, Memphis-4.

Miami (Fla) losses to lower conference teams were:
Florida Gulf Coast-12, Central Florida-6.

Miami (Fla) in the NCAAs:
2013, W Pacific +29, W Illinois +4, L Marquette-10.



Maryland:
Maryland is 54-16 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Maryland is 7-10 vs majors.
Maryland is 3-3 vs midmajors.
The Terrapins are 44-3 vs lowers.

Terps wins vs majors were:
Northwestern +20, Colorado +7, Notre Dame +7, Penn State +23, Indiana +12, Michigan State +18, Michigan +5.
Terps losses vs majors were:
Kentucky-3, Alabama-20, Illinois-9, Pitt-9, Illinois-4, Villanova-8, Cincinnati-12, Wisconsin-9, Villanova-9, Georgetown-27.

Maryland wins vs midmajors were:
George Mason +7, Charlotte +10, George Washington +23.
Maryland losses vs midmajors were:
Temple-13, Temple-3, Gonzaga-22.

Maryland losses to lower conference teams were:
Iona-26, William & Mary-6, Morgan State-1.

Maryland in the NCAAs:
2010, W Houston +12, L Michigan State-2.
2009, W Cal +13, L Memphis-19.

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DUKE, FLORIDA STATE and NORTH CAROLINA:

Duke:
Duke is 67-6 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Duke is 22-5 vs majors.
Duke is 14-1 vs midmajors.
Duke is 31-0 vs lowers.

Duke wins vs majors were:
Kentucky +7, Minnesota +18, Louisville +5, Ohio State +5, Michigan State +5, Tennessee +10, Michigan +7, Kansas +7, Washington +6, St John's +7, Marquette +5, Kansas State +14, Oregon +27, Michigan State +5, UConn +9, St John's +9, Iowa State +21, Arizona State +11, Michigan +15, Purdue +16, Georgetown +9, St John's +7.
Duke losses vs majors were:
Ohio State-22, St John's-15, Georgetown-12, Wisconsin-4, Michigan-8.

Duke wins vs midmajors were:
Santa Clara +13, Temple +23, VCU +9, Colorado State +23, Temple +17, Butler +12, Bradley +35, Saint Louis +37, Charlotte +42, Gonzaga +35, Rhode Island +3, Southern Illinois +25, Duquesne +23, Xavier +18.
Duke loss vs midmajor was:
Temple-5.

Duke in the NCAAs:
2013, W Albany +12, W Creighton +16, W Michigan State +10, L Louisville-22.
2012, L Lehigh-5.
2011, W Hampton +38, W Michigan +2, L Arizona-16.
2010, W Ark-Pine Bluff +29, W Cal +15, W Purdue +13, W Baylor +7, W West Va +21, W Butler +2.
2009, W Binghamton +24, W Texas +5, L Villanova-23.



Florida State:
Florida State is 52-18 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Florida State is 8-13 vs majors.
Florida State is 7-1 vs midmajors.
The Seminoles are 37-4 vs lowers

FSU wins vs majors were:
Auburn +29, Baylor +7, Alabama +9, Marquette +1, Auburn +4, Cincinnati +11, Florida +2, Cal +3.
FSU losses vs majors were:
Minnesota-9, Florida-25, Auburn-6, Florida-18, Michigan State-16, UConn-OT, Auburn-5, Florida-4, Ohio State-14, Florida-16, Ohio State-13, Northwestern-14, Pitt-8.

FSU wins vs midmajors were:
Brigham Young +18, St Joe's +7, Charlotte +3, Loyola Marymount +16, UMass +20, Loyola Marymount +11, LaSalle +4.
FSU loss vs midmajors was:
Butler-3.

FSU losses vs lowers were:
Mercer-5, South Alabama-5, Princeton-OT, Harvard-5.

FSU in the NCAAs:
2012, W St Bonaventure +3, L Cincinnati-6.
2011, W Notre Dame +14, W Texas A&M +7, L VCU-OT.
2010, L Gonzaga-7.
2009, L Wisconsin-OT.



North Carolina:
UNC is 58-13 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
UNC is 15-10 vs majors.
UNC is 4-2 vs midmajors.
UNC is 39-1 vs lower conference teams.

UNC wins vs majors were:
Mississippi State +46, Michigan State +12, South Carolina +25, Wisconsin +3, Texas +19, Rutgers +23, Kentucky +2, Ohio State +4, Michigan State +7, Rutgers +14, Kentucky +19, Oregon +29, Notre Dame +15, Michigan State +35, Rutgers +22.
UNC losses vs majors were:
Indiana-24, Texas-18, Kentucky-1, Minnesota-5, Vandy-7, Illinois-12, Texas-2, Syracuse-16, Kentucky-2, Texas-13.

UNC wins vs midmajors were:
UNLV +6, Evansville +49, Evansville +27, Evansville +28.
UNC losses vs midmajors were:
Butler-11, UNLV-10.

The UNC loss vs a lower conference school was:
College of Charleston-OT.

UNC in the NCAAs:
2013, W Villanova +7, L Kansas-12.
2012, W Vermont +19, W Ohio U +OT, W Creighton +16, L Kansas-13.
2011, W Long Island U +15, W Washington +3, W Marquette +18, L Kentucky-7.
2009, W Radford +43, Gonzaga +21, LSU +14, Oklahoma +12, Villanova +14, Michigan State +17.

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SYRACUSE, PITT and NOTRE DAME:

Syracuse:
Syracuse is 63-2 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Syracuse is 15-0 vs majors.
Syracuse is 8-1 vs midmajors.
The Orangemen are 40-1 vs lower conference schools.

SU wins vs majors were:
Arkansas +9, Virginia Tech +11, Stanford +6, Florida +4, NC State +16, Michigan +3, Georgia Tech +4, NC State +6, Michigan State +14, Cal +22, Florida +12, North Carolina +16, Virginia +3, Kansas +OT, Florida +6.
SU did not lose to a major in the past five years (15-0 regular season).

SU wins vs midmajors were:
San Diego State +13, George Washington +35, Fordham +25, Northern Iowa +22, Memphis +17, St Bonaventure +13, Richmond +5, Memphis +7.
The only Syracuse loss vs a midmajor was:
Temple-4.

The only Syracuse loss vs a lower conference team was:
Cleveland State-3.

Syracuse in the NCAAs:
2013, W Montana +47, W Cal +6, W Indiana +11, W Marquette +16, L Michigan-5.
2012, W Unc-Asheville +7, W Kansas State +16, W Wisconsin +1, L Ohio State-7.
2011, W Indiana State +17, L Marquette-4.
2010, W Vermont +23, W Gonzaga +22, L Butler-4.
2009, W Stephen F Austin +15, W Arizona State +11, L Oklahoma State-13.



Pitt:
Pitt is 59-6 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
Pitt is 7-4 vs majors.
Pitt is 9-0 vs midmajors.
The Panthers are 43-2 vs lower conference teams.

Pitt wins vs majors were:
Tennessee +5, Oklahoma State +6, Maryland +9, Texas +2, Texas Tech +13, Washington State +14, Florida State +8.
Pitt losses vs majors were:
Michigan-5, Tennessee-7, Indiana-10, Texas-16.

Pitt wins vs midmajors were:
Fordham +35, Duquesne +21, LaSalle +4, Duquesne +11, Rhody +8, Duquesne +14, Duquesne +OT, Wichita State +13, Duquesne +27.
Pitt had no losses vs midmajors over the past 5 years.

Pitt losses vs lower conference teams were:
Long Beach State-10, Wagner-5.

Pitt in the NCAAs:
2013, L Wichita State-18.
2011, W Unc-Asheville +23, L Butler-1.
2010, W Oakland +23, L Xavier-3.
2009, W East Tennessee State +10, W Xavier +5, W Oklahoma State +8, L Villanova-2.



Notre Dame:
Notre Dame is 51-12 ooc in the past 5 years (regular season).
The Irish are 8-9 vs majors.
The Irish are 7-3 vs midmajors.
The Irish are 36-0 vs lower conference teams.

Irish wins vs majors were:
Kentucky +14, Purdue +13, Georgia +OT, Cal +13, Wisconsin +7, UCLA +11, Texas +1, Indiana +38.
Irish losses vs majors were:
Mizzou-29, Georgia-4, Maryland-7, Indiana-11, Kentucky-14, Northwestern-14, UCLA-26, Ohio State-5, UNC-15.

Irish wins vs midmajors were:
Brigham Young +10, George Washington +17, Evansville +9, Indiana State +9, Gonzaga +4, Saint Louis +12, Loyola Marymount +11.
Irish losses vs midmajors were:
St Joe's-OT, Gonzaga-20, Loyola Marymount-2.

Notre Dame had no losses vs lower conference teams.

The Irish in the NCAAs:
2013, L Iowa State-18.
2012, L Xavier-4.
2011, W Akron +13, L Florida State-14.
2010, L Old Dominion-1.