DudeAnon wrote:The problem is perception. Most people still haven't bought into the idea that "we" are the Big East versus the OBE.
I would argue the best way to fix that perception issue is by winning. Currently Dayton has that pedigree. I would argue for their addition this year.
Ditch the round-robin. Expand to 11 with Dayton for now.
DudeAnon wrote:The problem is perception. Most people still haven't bought into the idea that "we" are the Big East versus the OBE.
I would argue the best way to fix that perception issue is by winning. Currently Dayton has that pedigree. I would argue for their addition this year.
Ditch the round-robin. Expand to 11 with Dayton for now.
Xudash wrote:DudeAnon wrote:The problem is perception. Most people still haven't bought into the idea that "we" are the Big East versus the OBE.
I would argue the best way to fix that perception issue is by winning. Currently Dayton has that pedigree. I would argue for their addition this year.
Ditch the round-robin. Expand to 11 with Dayton for now.
According to who? The Big East is what the Big East is now, and it is between grudgingly and admiringly viewed as a successful basketball-centric conference. Its member teams are respected in the sport - for the most part - it continues to chalk up strong conference performance rankings and heavy NCAA Tournament participation, and it now holds a NC via Nova.
Please let me know if you decide to go to New York to argue for UD's inclusion this year. I'll fly up to witness that effort. Of course, you may want to run your idea by a few people on Victory Parkway before you make travel arrangements.
It's a damn shame what has happened to Xavier and Creighton this year. Frankly, I mention that even more so with respect to Creighton, because they truly appeared to be a F4 prospect before Mo went down in the Cintas Center. Then again, look where the conference has landed as everyone begins to descend on NYC: the noise on the wire includes the notion of from 6 to 7 BE teams making the Dance.
What perception is there to fix when a conference gets at or beyond 50% of its members into the Dance on an almost annual basis? And that round-robin you want to ditch is a key driver to the Big East's present level of performance.
billyjack wrote:If we were going to add a team:
My only problem with Dayton, which I've always had and which is a big one, is if Xavier wants to block them... loyalty to our current XU conference-mates is important. If XU gives their blessing, then I think Dayton would be a good addition.
And I think most of us are good with Dayton. Even if Archie leaves, they have a great fanbase and they seem to know their college hoops. Over the last 5 years or so I think they've established themselves as a respected program to general hoops fans. If we added them, I think the non-BE talking heads would consider it a positive.
But I'm too far away to understand the SW Ohio dynamic. Dayton is 45 miles from Xavier. For PC, we're 30 miles from URI and I'd be against adding them. But we're 50 miles from UConn, who I'd be fine with. I'm also fine with any Massachusetts team (if the team were solid, which none are right now), also 30 to 50 miles away.
DudeAnon wrote:billyjack wrote:If we were going to add a team:
My only problem with Dayton, which I've always had and which is a big one, is if Xavier wants to block them... loyalty to our current XU conference-mates is important. If XU gives their blessing, then I think Dayton would be a good addition.
And I think most of us are good with Dayton. Even if Archie leaves, they have a great fanbase and they seem to know their college hoops. Over the last 5 years or so I think they've established themselves as a respected program to general hoops fans. If we added them, I think the non-BE talking heads would consider it a positive.
But I'm too far away to understand the SW Ohio dynamic. Dayton is 45 miles from Xavier. For PC, we're 30 miles from URI and I'd be against adding them. But we're 50 miles from UConn, who I'd be fine with. I'm also fine with any Massachusetts team (if the team were solid, which none are right now), also 30 to 50 miles away.
It will be interesting to see how it goes down. I do believe Dayton would be the smallest city in the conference, so that doesn't help. But their fanbase would be among the strongest. So IDK.
DudeAnon wrote:I think we should add em before AAC gets em.
kayako wrote:DudeAnon wrote:I think we should add em before AAC gets em.
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