adoraz wrote:kayako wrote:They need to first make the Final Four or better, and then sustain that success.
Not that I am dying to add them, but that's exactly what Wichita State and VCU is doing?
They got to their current national prestige by doing that, but they need to prove they're a power. For VCU, it's been six years (first FF in history) and Wichita it's been 4 (second in history). VCU in fact only has ONE Sweet 16 despite all their recent success. National powers win championships and go to the FF more consistently.
Best case would obviously be for these schools to do what Nova did last year. In that case I don't think the Big East could/should say no.
ecasadoSBU wrote:Whether Villanova wins a national championship or not this league will be fine. I think the inferiority complex needs to go...
How often does a PAC-12 team win it all?
How often does B10 team win it all?
or a SEC team besides Kentucky?
Even a B12 team?
Those are still strong conference and respected.
At the end of the day... the B.E has demonstrated it will continue to be in the running as the best college basketball conference... very least TOP 3. That is unlikely to change
adoraz wrote:They got to their current national prestige by doing that, but they need to prove they're a power. For VCU, it's been six years (first FF in history) and Wichita it's been 4 (second in history). VCU in fact only has ONE Sweet 16 despite all their recent success. National powers win championships and go to the FF more consistently.
JohnW22 wrote:It would take Xavier a long time and still might not happen. I think next year could be a step down from this year.
scoscox wrote:JohnW22 wrote:It would take Xavier a long time and still might not happen. I think next year could be a step down from this year.
What? Even losing Bluiett and Sumner, we will be very very good next year. I don't think it will take a long time at all. We've been making consistent noise in march for awhile. We just pulled in the best recruiting class in our history. This is a bonkers take. I don't want to rehash the last 15 or so seasons, but its reasonable to say we're on the rise.
As much as it pains me, I think under Holtmann, Butler is very secure. I expect them to be very good, as well as us, for some time moving forward. I hope St. John's will rise again as well. Nova is not really an established power I don't think. They're very good, but I don't think the program is impervious yet. Were they to get their act together, Georgetown's prestige would still carry the day I think. Even now I think the Georgetown brand carries the most weight in the conference.
Bill Marsh wrote:ecasadoSBU wrote:Whether Villanova wins a national championship or not this league will be fine. I think the inferiority complex needs to go...
How often does a PAC-12 team win it all?
It's been 20 years.How often does B10 team win it all?
Once in 30 years.or a SEC team besides Kentucky?
Only Florida and Arkansas.Even a B12 team?
Kansas . . .Those are still strong conference and respected.
At the end of the day... the B.E has demonstrated it will continue to be in the running as the best college basketball conference... very least TOP 3. That is unlikely to change
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