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Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:55 pm

Sactowndog wrote:Just one post on Academic exclusivity which is something Jay fans harp on. Here is the list of BCS teams teams with the lowest admission rates and very hard academic rankings:

Exclusive Schools list Rank Percent Academic
Standford 4 7% Very hard
Duke 20 14% Very hard
Vanderbuilt 22 14% Very hard
NorthWestern 32 18% Very hard
USC 39 20% Very hard
Cal 43 22% Very hard
UCLA 64 27% Very hard
Boston College 84 29% Very hard
University of Virginia 93 30% Very hard

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Thanks for posting this information. I find it both interesting and useful - especially when I am advising HS kids on college choices. Would you mind sharing the source? Thanks.
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Postby Savannah Jay » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:14 pm

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I think the acceptance rate at WCC is 95.8%, which makes it the easiest school in Kansas, and perhaps on planet earth, to get into. I think there would be permanent indigestion in DC if someone like that were a "colleague" of Georgetown (not to mention other Big East schools).


The acceptance rate of Wichita state is 95% about the same as K-State and Kansas. The acceptance rate of Creighton is 72.7 hardly a top tier school..

Pomona College, where I attended is 9.1%
Smith College, where my wife attended is 36%

We have both traveled to Omaha to watch Volleyball. While I have tried to avoid straight attacks, the Creighton fans are one of the biggest stick up your a$$, smug fan bases for no apparent reason I have seen. The only fan base that compares with Creighton is CAL Berkeley and at least CAL's acceptance rate is 17.5. Even other Pac-12 schools hate Cal fans and I am sure it is just a matter of time before Creighton fans are the same. While I am not a Shocker fan, I am an anti-Creighton fan and I would definitely more then enjoy watching them shove it down your throat in a almost any sport solely because you guys are such a$$es as a fan base.

Why don't you try to get your acceptance rate under 50% before you look down your nose at other schools.


So your data says WCC acceptance rate is 95%, and I stated it was 95.8%. Those are not statistically disparate numbers. You do know that, right? And believe it or not, but 72.7% acceptance rate is actually, statistically, more difficult to get into than a school with a 95% acceptance rate. So nothing I said was incorrect, but it still gave you butt-hurt.

And I doubt seriously that you went to Pomona College or anywhere else for that matter. To my point, "volleyball" is not a proper noun and should not be capitalized. And finally, there is no bigger ass as someone who feels the need to come onto a message board of a conference for which you have zero affiliation and try to psycho-babble your way to self-importance. If you think I am an ass, I take that as the highest form of compliment, so thank you.
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Postby Hall2012 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:49 pm

stever20 wrote:The Big Ten deal I just don't see being that huge in basketball. It's for 50 basketball games for the year. During the conference season, there's only about 5 games total aired a week on ESPN right now. So about 2-3 games a week going to Fox or FS1.

Also, there's no guarantee that there will be any new windows for basketball on Fox or FS1.


It doesn't need to be huge, and if smaller is better if there isn't an increase in cbb time slots as that keeps more for the Big East. But it doesn't hurt the conference if some of our lower tear games are replaced on FS1 by good B1G games. It increases our perception by dumping some of our ratings anchors while hopefully helping some more casual viewers find FS1 on their TVs.
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Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:15 am

stever20 wrote:The Big Ten deal I just don't see being that huge in basketball. It's for 50 basketball games for the year. During the conference season, there's only about 5 games total aired a week on ESPN right now. So about 2-3 games a week going to Fox or FS1.

Also, there's no guarantee that there will be any new windows for basketball on Fox or FS1.


Sports Business Journal thinks this is a very big deal in what it tells us about ESPN. Despite the fact that they really wanted the Big Ten, they came in with a shockingly low offer. SBJ thinks this tells us a lot about the new austerity measures at ESPN.

So, the question is, who's going to buy the other half of the B1G games? It had been assumed that ESPN would. But if their offer was non-competitivethis time, why will it be anymore so next time? We'll see.

If the other half of the B1G games goes to someone other than ESPN, like CBS or NBC, then we begin to see erosion of ESPN's dominance of college basketball broadcasting. Viewers will start migrating elsewhere, looking at multiple sources for their content. That kind of change in audience behavior can only be good for the BE.
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Postby stever20 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:16 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
stever20 wrote:The Big Ten deal I just don't see being that huge in basketball. It's for 50 basketball games for the year. During the conference season, there's only about 5 games total aired a week on ESPN right now. So about 2-3 games a week going to Fox or FS1.

Also, there's no guarantee that there will be any new windows for basketball on Fox or FS1.


Sports Business Journal thinks this is a very big deal in what it tells us about ESPN. Despite the fact that they really wanted the Big Ten, they came in with a shockingly low offer. SBJ thinks this tells us a lot about the new austerity measures at ESPN.

So, the question is, who's going to buy the other half of the B1G games? It had been assumed that ESPN would. But if their offer was non-competitivethis time, why will it be anymore so next time? We'll see.

If the other half of the B1G games goes to someone other than ESPN, like CBS or NBC, then we begin to see erosion of ESPN's dominance of college basketball broadcasting. Viewers will start migrating elsewhere, looking at multiple sources for their content. That kind of change in audience behavior can only be good for the BE.

Uh, you do know that ESPN got the other half of the Big Ten games, don't you?
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Postby Sactowndog » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:25 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:Just one post on Academic exclusivity which is something Jay fans harp on. Here is the list of BCS teams teams with the lowest admission rates and very hard academic rankings:

Exclusive Schools list Rank Percent Academic
Standford 4 7% Very hard
Duke 20 14% Very hard
Vanderbuilt 22 14% Very hard
NorthWestern 32 18% Very hard
USC 39 20% Very hard
Cal 43 22% Very hard
UCLA 64 27% Very hard
Boston College 84 29% Very hard
University of Virginia 93 30% Very hard

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Thanks for posting this information. I find it both interesting and useful - especially when I am advising HS kids on college choices. Would you mind sharing the source? Thanks.


Here is the link

http://www.collegesimply.com/guides/low ... /?start=51
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Postby bluejayfanatic » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:38 am

Sactowndog wrote:Vanderbuilt 22 14% Very hard


I hear no one's getting into Vanderbuilt.
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Postby sju88grad » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:49 am

bluejayfanatic wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:Vanderbuilt 22 14% Very hard


I hear no one's getting into Vanderbuilt.


And Standford is really tough too....
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Postby Doge McDermott » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:36 pm

cu blujs wrote:Creighton Wichita State was never a rivalry. Oh sure, maybe for about the last two years CU was in the MVC. CU rarely played WSU prior to rejoining the Valley in the mid to late 70s. From there, since WSU got caught cheating and put on probation, they have been largely irrelevant. They were still relatively good through most of the 80s, but at that time Creighton was so bad that it didn't matter much to the few of us following CU in those days, and few if anyone at Creighton gave Wichita St any thought. Creighton's resurgence in the mid-90s began a period of 15 plus years where Wichita St was almost completely irrelevant in the MVC and the minds of Creighton fans. Southern Illinois was primarily CU's rival for supremacy in the league in those days - and to a lesser extent Missouri St. due to most fans' disdain for the helmet head now coaching at UCLA. Outside of the fact that WSU fans were the most obnoxious, idiotic people we would run into in St. Louis each year, most CU fans could not have cared less about WSU until Greggggggg Marshall came on the scene and made WSU relevant about 2010 or so. No doubt all CU fans took great delight in smoking WSU on senior night in our last game in the MVC to take the title from WSU and beating them again in St. Louis to take the last MVC tournament title on our way out the door. But, if Creighton WSU was a "rivalry", it was about as short lived a rivalry as ever existed.


Yeah, the rivalry was really a Creighton Vs. Whoever-Is-Kinda-Good-in-the-MVC-this-year. No one else had our sustained success to be real. It was SIU when I was at Creighton. Wichita State just happened to fit that mold the last couple years we were there. If we were still in the MVC, I'm not sure we'd call it a rivalry in five years, as WSU is clearly in decline.

At least we could shoot the shit with SIU fans in STL. WSU never went out drinking.
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Postby Bill Marsh » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:21 pm

Sactowndog wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:Just one post on Academic exclusivity which is something Jay fans harp on. Here is the list of BCS teams teams with the lowest admission rates and very hard academic rankings:

Exclusive Schools list Rank Percent Academic
Standford 4 7% Very hard
Duke 20 14% Very hard
Vanderbuilt 22 14% Very hard
NorthWestern 32 18% Very hard
USC 39 20% Very hard
Cal 43 22% Very hard
UCLA 64 27% Very hard
Boston College 84 29% Very hard
University of Virginia 93 30% Very hard

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Thanks for posting this information. I find it both interesting and useful - especially when I am advising HS kids on college choices. Would you mind sharing the source? Thanks.


Here is the link

http://www.collegesimply.com/guides/low ... /?start=51


Thanks. Greatly appreciate you for taking he time to post the link.
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