(6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby hoyahooligan » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:58 pm

Enjoyed the Providence v URI game.

I thought URI had the better run of play for the majority of the game. They were more aggressive defensively and on the boards for most of the game, but then the let up with about 7 minutes to play and Providence made them pay. It was strange to see providence out worked for most of the game since toughness and effort have been providence's hall marks. Providence hit a bunch of very tough shots to win the game and Kartwright hitting a bunch of deep 3s helped a lot too.

Crowd was very good. I'd say it was about 2/3rds providence 1/3rd RI fans, but for the majority of the game the Rhode Island fans were louder even when providence was leading. But again in the last quarter of the game like their team the Providence fans came to life and became louder.
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Postby Jet915 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:19 pm

Overall good day for Big East going 5-2. I was hoping X or PC would win and figured Depaul would lose.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby BEhomer » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:53 am

a little disappointed by X's loss. It's a game I thought they had a good chance winning. They led majority of the game. Not sure what happened in the last 10min or so. Wasn't all that impressed with Baylor. They look like the same team year after year. long athletic but lack team concept.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:29 am

hoyahooligan wrote:Enjoyed the Providence v URI game.

I thought URI had the better run of play for the majority of the game. They were more aggressive defensively and on the boards for most of the game, but then the let up with about 7 minutes to play and Providence made them pay. It was strange to see providence out worked for most of the game since toughness and effort have been providence's hall marks. Providence hit a bunch of very tough shots to win the game and Kartwright hitting a bunch of deep 3s helped a lot too.

Crowd was very good. I'd say it was about 2/3rds providence 1/3rd RI fans, but for the majority of the game the Rhode Island fans were louder even when providence was leading. But again in the last quarter of the game like their team the Providence fans came to life and became louder.

Still early, but it's time to end the doubts that Ed could put together a winning combination out of what was left with the Dunn and Bentil departures. They're 37 in RPI, 56 in KenPom, clearly at least a bubble team at this point.

Friar fans, take a victory lap!
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby hoyahooligan » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:00 pm

Wizard of Westroads wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:Enjoyed the Providence v URI game.

I thought URI had the better run of play for the majority of the game. They were more aggressive defensively and on the boards for most of the game, but then the let up with about 7 minutes to play and Providence made them pay. It was strange to see providence out worked for most of the game since toughness and effort have been providence's hall marks. Providence hit a bunch of very tough shots to win the game and Kartwright hitting a bunch of deep 3s helped a lot too.

Crowd was very good. I'd say it was about 2/3rds providence 1/3rd RI fans, but for the majority of the game the Rhode Island fans were louder even when providence was leading. But again in the last quarter of the game like their team the Providence fans came to life and became louder.

Still early, but it's time to end the doubts that Ed could put together a winning combination out of what was left with the Dunn and Bentil departures. They're 37 in RPI, 56 in KenPom, clearly at least a bubble team at this point.

Friar fans, take a victory lap!


Still early Kenpom had Providence Favored against URI. They've performed exactly to expectations so far. They've won the games they were supposed to (more than my team can say) and lost the ones they were supposed to. If you were expecting them to be St. John's or DePaul that's on you. There exactly where they're supposed to be talent wise. I think the 18-13 projection and possible NIT bid is probably pretty accurate. Could do even better or could fall short, but that feels about right.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:20 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:Enjoyed the Providence v URI game.

I thought URI had the better run of play for the majority of the game. They were more aggressive defensively and on the boards for most of the game, but then the let up with about 7 minutes to play and Providence made them pay. It was strange to see providence out worked for most of the game since toughness and effort have been providence's hall marks. Providence hit a bunch of very tough shots to win the game and Kartwright hitting a bunch of deep 3s helped a lot too.

Crowd was very good. I'd say it was about 2/3rds providence 1/3rd RI fans, but for the majority of the game the Rhode Island fans were louder even when providence was leading. But again in the last quarter of the game like their team the Providence fans came to life and became louder.

Still early, but it's time to end the doubts that Ed could put together a winning combination out of what was left with the Dunn and Bentil departures. They're 37 in RPI, 56 in KenPom, clearly at least a bubble team at this point.

Friar fans, take a victory lap!


Still early Kenpom had Providence Favored against URI. They've performed exactly to expectations so far. They've won the games they were supposed to (more than my team can say) and lost the ones they were supposed to. If you were expecting them to be St. John's or DePaul that's on you. There exactly where they're supposed to be talent wise. I think the 18-13 projection and possible NIT bid is probably pretty accurate. Could do even better or could fall short, but that feels about right.

My point was that they were picked to finish 8th on this board. Some of the Friar posters had a "we'll show you" response, and I thought they might want to stick it to doubters now.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:55 pm

they're still projected in KP to be tied for 7th.

Of the 6 wins they have- 5 are worse than 90. Only 2 top 100 wins vs Memphis and Rhode Island....

So they're right where they were supposed to be.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby hoyahooligan » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:29 pm

Wizard of Westroads wrote:My point was that they were picked to finish 8th on this board. Some of the Friar posters had a "we'll show you" response, and I thought they might want to stick it to doubters now.


and my point is they're still projected to finish tied for 7th at this point on kenpom. They haven't done anything to prove 8th place wrong yet.
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby FriarsForever » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:10 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:My point was that they were picked to finish 8th on this board. Some of the Friar posters had a "we'll show you" response, and I thought they might want to stick it to doubters now.


and my point is they're still projected to finish tied for 7th at this point on kenpom. They haven't done anything to prove 8th place wrong yet.


More so, Hooligan, it's how they have played so far. They were not overmatched AT ALL against Ohio State on the road. They were not overmatched against a top 10 Virginia team. They beat a team they weren't supposed to beat in URI. You can say KenPom had PC as the favorite but I believe that was factoring in how they have looked so far this season as opposed to before the season started, where most felt this was the year URI had the upper hand on PC. Cartwright has 100000000x more value than he was given credit for on this board preseason (not to toot my own horn, but... :lol:), Bullock I don't even think was picked as an honorable mention all conference player on this board, clearly that wasn't accurate as he currently leads the league in scoring. Hooligan, you are probably the exception who saw that this Friars team had some nice pieces, but, as I mentioned, you are one of the few exceptions. Not to throw stones at your team, but I think Georgetown's play and Marquette's play has done a little so far to prove 8th place wrong for Providence...
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Re: (6) Saturday Big East Games 12/03/2016

Postby hoyahooligan » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:01 pm

FriarsForever wrote:
hoyahooligan wrote:
Wizard of Westroads wrote:My point was that they were picked to finish 8th on this board. Some of the Friar posters had a "we'll show you" response, and I thought they might want to stick it to doubters now.


and my point is they're still projected to finish tied for 7th at this point on kenpom. They haven't done anything to prove 8th place wrong yet.


More so, Hooligan, it's how they have played so far. They were not overmatched AT ALL against Ohio State on the road. They were not overmatched against a top 10 Virginia team. They beat a team they weren't supposed to beat in URI. You can say KenPom had PC as the favorite but I believe that was factoring in how they have looked so far this season as opposed to before the season started, where most felt this was the year URI had the upper hand on PC. Cartwright has 100000000x more value than he was given credit for on this board preseason (not to toot my own horn, but... :lol:), Bullock I don't even think was picked as an honorable mention all conference player on this board, clearly that wasn't accurate as he currently leads the league in scoring. Hooligan, you are probably the exception who saw that this Friars team had some nice pieces, but, as I mentioned, you are one of the few exceptions. Not to throw stones at your team, but I think Georgetown's play and Marquette's play has done a little so far to prove 8th place wrong for Providence...


This was my first time seeing providence play this season so didn't see them in their two loses against good teams.

I knew Kartwright was going to be good and he's been very helpful on my fantasy team. :D
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