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Postby Bluejay » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:29 am

Creighton's win over Wisconsin was part of the Gavit Games.
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Postby LabRatScott » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:46 am

Bluejay wrote:Creighton's win over Wisconsin was part of the Gavit Games.

Doh! I was thinking this one and not the Marquette game not being a part of the challenge but they lost yet too so I was double wrong!
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Re: BIG EAST vs. FOOTBALL FIVE

Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:13 am

SJHooper wrote:This matters a lot for perception purposes. So far we are blowing out most mid majors and consistently beating top competition while staying in the game even in losses vs. F5 opponents. I think nationally people are realizing more and more that you don't need football to be a great basketball school. You just need to allocate more funds and resources to basketball. It really will be interesting to see how long UConn allows football to slowly erode their basketball prestige. Very interesting case study.


um, we haven't really played that many mid majors.
looking-
Nova- vs UCF 10
Xavier- vs No Iowa 8

believe it or not, but those are the only 2 mid majors that we've seen so far.
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Postby SJHooper » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:51 am

Stever, very rarely is "low major" used. Typically, the casual definition is any team from a conference outside of the P6 (and UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita St being exceptions). If Bethune-Cookman had a good year they would make the "top mid majors" list. I've only heard the term "low major" if it's really nitpicking. Either way, we have handled business so far in OOC. Hope to keep it up. SJ is overdue for a ranked win after losing 15 straight games vs. ranked opponents. I would rather beat Syracuse, but after being 2-0 recently and in the Carrier Dome with a legit team this year, I feel we have a better shot vs. MSU. I fear Miles Bridges will tear us to shreds...he's better than Coffey on Minnesota and it felt like he dropped 50 on us. If we are going to win this game, we need a 3rd guy to step up not named Ponds or LoVett. Looking at you Mussini and Ahmed.
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Postby Bluejay » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:24 am

stever20 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:This matters a lot for perception purposes. So far we are blowing out most mid majors and consistently beating top competition while staying in the game even in losses vs. F5 opponents. I think nationally people are realizing more and more that you don't need football to be a great basketball school. You just need to allocate more funds and resources to basketball. It really will be interesting to see how long UConn allows football to slowly erode their basketball prestige. Very interesting case study.


um, we haven't really played that many mid majors.
looking-
Nova- vs UCF 10
Xavier- vs No Iowa 8

believe it or not, but those are the only 2 mid majors that we've seen so far.


We?
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Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:51 am

Looking at Ken Pom this morning, you can really make a case that it's really a P4....

look at the ratings...
1 ACC +17.23
2 B12 +15.61
3 BE +14.95
4 B10 +13.33

5 P12 +11.73
6 SEC +9.40

7 AAC +5.22
8 A10 +4.85

9 MWC +1.98
10 MVC +1.94
11 WCC +1.19
12 MAC +0.88
13 CAA +0.32
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Re: BIG EAST vs. FOOTBALL FIVE

Postby Jet915 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:24 am

Power 6 Head to Head (through Nov. 23)
ACC (7-5)
Big East (12-9)
B1G (12-10)
Big XII (5-5)
Pac 12 (4-4)
SEC (3-10)
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Re: BIG EAST vs. FOOTBALL FIVE

Postby stever20 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:18 pm

SJHooper wrote:Stever, very rarely is "low major" used. Typically, the casual definition is any team from a conference outside of the P6 (and UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Wichita St being exceptions). If Bethune-Cookman had a good year they would make the "top mid majors" list. I've only heard the term "low major" if it's really nitpicking. Either way, we have handled business so far in OOC. Hope to keep it up. SJ is overdue for a ranked win after losing 15 straight games vs. ranked opponents. I would rather beat Syracuse, but after being 2-0 recently and in the Carrier Dome with a legit team this year, I feel we have a better shot vs. MSU. I fear Miles Bridges will tear us to shreds...he's better than Coffey on Minnesota and it felt like he dropped 50 on us. If we are going to win this game, we need a 3rd guy to step up not named Ponds or LoVett. Looking at you Mussini and Ahmed.

uh, no. Those that you mentioned are mid majors. Bethune Cookman isn't a mid-major. They just aren't.

Like I said- 2 games vs Mid Majors so far. A 3rd tonight in St John's vs VCU. maybe 2 more tomorrow.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. FOOTBALL FIVE

Postby redmen9194 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:57 am

Up and down last few games. Still more to come.
11/25: Arizona vs. Butler
11/28: Butler vs. Utah

ACC : 3-1
B1G: 5-7
B XII: 0-1
PAC 12: 2-0
SEC: 4-1

Overall: 14-10

Go Big East!
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Postby flixx » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:45 am

Butler just beat Arizona 69 to 65 to win their Las Vegas tournament....damn they showed a lot of grit at the end coming back to win
Big East impressive
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