Is Xavier the bad boy of the Big East?

[TAMU Eagle]

Have thought of X as the bad boys for years, but not necessarily in a good way. It dates back to the crosstown brawl for me. As a fan of neither program, I thought Cincinnati came out looking like the bigger men. Tu Holloway sitting there and telling everyone that "we gangsters" was not a good look. The Myles Davis situation doesn't help. I do not have all the details but it certainly seems like he has acted pretty aggressively and disrespectfully towards this woman. I certainly wouldn't say it deserves jail time or a permanent suspension with the information available, but it certainly seems from an outsider's perspective that he wouldn't be the best person to be representing your alma mater.

JP Macura? I want to party with that guy.

[BEX]

So Xavier were the bad boys of the BE while they were still in the A-10? Try to stay focused.

[X-man]

Have thought of X as the bad boys for years, but not necessarily in a good way. It dates back to the crosstown brawl for me. As a fan of neither program, I thought Cincinnati came out looking like the bigger men. Tu Holloway sitting there and telling everyone that "we gangsters" was not a good look. The Myles Davis situation doesn't help. I do not have all the details but it certainly seems like he has acted pretty aggressively and disrespectfully towards this woman. I certainly wouldn't say it deserves jail time or a permanent suspension with the information available, but it certainly seems from an outsider's perspective that he wouldn't be the best person to be representing your alma mater.

JP Macura? I want to party with that guy.

I was at the game and while both sides contributed to the brawl, UC's players were the prime instigators....especially the thug who sucker-punched the XU player trying to break up the fracas. And Cronin's post brawl penalties were a joke frankly, full of sanctimonious bull. Of course ESPN blew up the "gangsta" line, but it was way misinterpreted by the media and, apparently, by you as well. Street talk was all it was, and no worse than the smack that goes on constantly during games.

[JohnW22]

Have thought of X as the bad boys for years, but not necessarily in a good way. It dates back to the crosstown brawl for me. As a fan of neither program, I thought Cincinnati came out looking like the bigger men. Tu Holloway sitting there and telling everyone that "we gangsters" was not a good look. The Myles Davis situation doesn't help. I do not have all the details but it certainly seems like he has acted pretty aggressively and disrespectfully towards this woman. I certainly wouldn't say it deserves jail time or a permanent suspension with the information available, but it certainly seems from an outsider's perspective that he wouldn't be the best person to be representing your alma mater.

JP Macura? I want to party with that guy.

I was at the game and while both sides contributed to the brawl, UC's players were the prime instigators....especially the thug who sucker-punched the XU player trying to break up the fracas. And Cronin's post brawl penalties were a joke frankly, full of sanctimonious bull. Of course ESPN blew up the "gangsta" line, but it was way misinterpreted by the media and, apparently, by you as well. Street talk was all it was, and no worse than the smack that goes on constantly during games.

We did get the famous Zip Em Up quote from that press conference though which is unbeatable

[TAMU Eagle]

So Xavier were the bad boys of the BE while they were still in the A-10? Try to stay focused.

It's the same program, same coach. I think some of those players ended up playing in the Big East. They brought that history into the BEast with them.

I was at the game and while both sides contributed to the brawl, UC's players were the prime instigators....especially the thug who sucker-punched the XU player trying to break up the fracas. And Cronin's post brawl penalties were a joke frankly, full of sanctimonious bull. Of course ESPN blew up the "gangsta" line, but it was way misinterpreted by the media and, apparently, by you as well. Street talk was all it was, and no worse than the smack that goes on constantly during games.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. I'm just sharing an outsider's perspective of the event. "Bad boys of the BEast" isn't something factual. It's based on perspective. For me, this event added to the perspective that Xavier were the "bad boys."

All this being said, X is one of my favorite programs to cheer for. Love the play style and what y'all have brought to the Big East.

[DudeAnon]

So Xavier were the bad boys of the BE while they were still in the A-10? Try to stay focused.

It's the same program, same coach. I think some of those players ended up playing in the Big East. They brought that history into the BEast with them.

I was at the game and while both sides contributed to the brawl, UC's players were the prime instigators....especially the thug who sucker-punched the XU player trying to break up the fracas. And Cronin's post brawl penalties were a joke frankly, full of sanctimonious bull. Of course ESPN blew up the "gangsta" line, but it was way misinterpreted by the media and, apparently, by you as well. Street talk was all it was, and no worse than the smack that goes on constantly during games.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. I'm just sharing an outsider's perspective of the event. "Bad boys of the BEast" isn't something factual. It's based on perspective. For me, this event added to the perspective that Xavier were the "bad boys."

All this being said, X is one of my favorite programs to cheer for. Love the play style and what y'all have brought to the Big East.

X is basically Butler on steroids. All the "grit" and "toughness" that sometimes borders on dirty. Frankly, I love it.

I think the reaction to the Crosstown Shootout was overblown. People outside of Cincinnati have no idea the emotions that go into the game and it was a 30 second scuffle. Holloway is a great kid and he made one stupid quote. But effectively, all he was saying was "we are tough."

Admittedly, I wish Mack knew when to tone it down (he gave JP & Jalen too much slack imo) but either way its still just a game and I would rather it be fun.

[BEX]

The Myles Davis situation doesn't help. I do not have all the details but it certainly seems like he has acted pretty aggressively and disrespectfully towards this woman. I certainly wouldn't say it deserves jail time or a permanent suspension with the information available, but it certainly seems from an outsider's perspective that he wouldn't be the best person to be representing your alma mater.

Hasn't been resolved yet. Guess you are assuming everything the girl says is factual. Worst "charge" is he broke a cheap ass android cell phone. A broken cell phone. This is all we know. We never have heard his side yet.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/20 ... /93235144/

Archie Miller had two guys accused of rape play for him and two more playing now for Ohio penal after robbing students in their rooms, but I never hear them called the "bad boys of the A-10". C'mon.

[TAMU Eagle]

Hasn't been resolved yet. Guess you are assuming everything the girl says is factual. Worst "charge" is he broke a cheap ass android cell phone. A broken cell phone. This is all we know. We never have heard his side yet.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/20 ... /93235144/

Archie Miller had two guys accused of rape play for him and two more playing now for Ohio penal after robbing students in their rooms, but I never hear them called the "bad boys of the A-10". C'mon.

I don't know what Dayton has to do with this. Or any other school. One bad situation doesn't make another one any better.

As I stated before, I don't have all the information. I'm not stating anything as a definite. I also stated that if the accusations are true, I wouldn't advocate for jail time or a permanent suspension.

I'm not assuming everything this woman says is factual, but I am assuming there is at least some truth to it. How much? Only they know. Completely false accusations are extremely rare though certainly possible. Truthfully, I'm more considered about the other threatening behavior referenced then the cell phone.Could be a sign of an abusive relationship.

It's completely fair to say we don't know anything let's wait to see what happens. But it's dangerous to start in a place of "he's innocent" or "he's guilty" without the facts. Blind defense of athletes is one of the worst parts of college fandom. I've seen at Marquette, we had a player accused of sexual assault about 7 years ago. All that should be hoped for is that justice prevails.

[bmorex]

Has Cronin given his players back the jerseys that he tore off their backs yet?

[Xudash]

Has Cronin given his players back the jerseys that he tore off their backs yet?

Did UC ever reimburse the Cincinnati Police Department for the dental work required by the Police Horse?

JP does something sophomoric and Myles didn't know how to break up with a girl on a mature basis. I would hope those incidents aren't enough to constitute "bad boy" behavior, because that would be pretty weak.

I don't see the UC Brawl having anything to do with this specific topic, and it was mostly UC's fault anyway.