SJ beats Baruch (Exhibition) 99-49

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Postby SJHooper » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:12 am

We are finally very deep at guard. LoVett can break ankles, pass, penetrate, or even nail a 3. Ponds is deceptively quick, crafty, and can always pop his floater or shoot a 3. Mussini will be a catch and shoot guard and when he is warming up, watch out. He brought us the win vs. Cuse last year. Ellison is hurt but from what I hear it's nothing major. He was awful early on but really seemed to get settled towards the end of the season...he's also 6'6 so he will create major matchup problems. None of this even mentions 5 star Justin Simon the Arizona transfer who will suit up next year. I was at midnight madness and he is an athletic freak...he knows how to get to the rim.

My concern are the bigs. Sima looked good before injury last year and hasn't been the same since. Owens can rebound against smaller teams, but the wind can blow him over. Amar can shoot but he still stays away from the paint for the most part. Williams has been either injured or just plain bad since he came here. Yakwe is promising but he also needs to pack on some pounds. I never understood why we never go after those big 6'10-7'0 250-275 lb guys. We never seem to get the real monsters...just skinny skeletons. I always want a guy like a Pinkston (Nova) or a guy like Blair (Pitt). Yes they are 6'7, but look at their body types. They are bruisers and they are not afraid to throw their weight around in the paint.

I truly think we are 1-2 meaty bigs (with offensive skill like Blair, Pinkston, Stainbrook) away from being a consistently ranked team once the experience is there.
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Postby REDMEN1415 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:43 pm

SJHooper wrote:We are finally very deep at guard. LoVett can break ankles, pass, penetrate, or even nail a 3. Ponds is deceptively quick, crafty, and can always pop his floater or shoot a 3. Mussini will be a catch and shoot guard and when he is warming up, watch out. He brought us the win vs. Cuse last year. Ellison is hurt but from what I hear it's nothing major. He was awful early on but really seemed to get settled towards the end of the season...he's also 6'6 so he will create major matchup problems. None of this even mentions 5 star Justin Simon the Arizona transfer who will suit up next year. I was at midnight madness and he is an athletic freak...he knows how to get to the rim.

My concern are the bigs. Sima looked good before injury last year and hasn't been the same since. Owens can rebound against smaller teams, but the wind can blow him over. Amar can shoot but he still stays away from the paint for the most part. Williams has been either injured or just plain bad since he came here. Yakwe is promising but he also needs to pack on some pounds. I never understood why we never go after those big 6'10-7'0 250-275 lb guys. We never seem to get the real monsters...just skinny skeletons. I always want a guy like a Pinkston (Nova) or a guy like Blair (Pitt). Yes they are 6'7, but look at their body types. They are bruisers and they are not afraid to throw their weight around in the paint.

I truly think we are 1-2 meaty bigs (with offensive skill like Blair, Pinkston, Stainbrook) away from being a consistently ranked team once the experience is there.


lol Joe3, I know now you don't go on redmen.
Over there are alot of Ahmed/Pinkston comparisions. Just read alittle.

Put a guard on him and Ahmed will bully him, put a big on him and he'll blow right by.
I'd prefer him and RF as the 2 forwards with Yakwe at center.
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Re: SJ beats Baruch (Exhibition) 99-49

Postby NJRedman » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:48 pm

stever20 wrote:
NJRedman wrote:
stever20 wrote:the thing with ST John's is they have 2 cupcake games, then a game at Minnesota. Then 4th game is a HUGE one vs Michigan St in Battle 4 Atlantis. Win there- and you get Baylor or VCU and then one of Wichita St or Louisville. Lose and you get the loser of the Baylor/VCU game, and then likely one of LSU or Old Dominion. Considering only other good OOC game is Syracuse- that's a pretty big swing there. So they have to get the kinks out really fast.


MSU is without their two starting big men up front. Gonna be tough for them too. We also have PSU at MSG who should be pretty good and a tougher out than most think.


MSU will have had 2 tougher games before the St John's game with games against Arizona and Kentucky. And the game with St John's is in 3 weeks. So they'll have had a much better chance to work out the kinks than St John's against much better competition than what St John's is seeing.

Penn St is a game with a lot of risk but little reward. It's a home game so a win is only .6 for the RPI. But the SOS won't help much at all.


Penn State is a neutral site game being played at MSG. It will be looked at as a neutral site by all the computers.
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Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:55 pm

NJRedman wrote:Penn State is a neutral site game being played at MSG. It will be looked at as a neutral site by all the computers.


Wrong. Any game St John's plays at MSG is considered a home game for St John's. Just like the Big East tournament. Doesn't matter that it's not included in the season ticket package. Now the game the week before, vs LIU-Brooklyn- is at Barclay's and IS considered as a neutral site game.
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Re: SJ beats Baruch (Exhibition) 99-49

Postby SJHooper » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:40 pm

REDMEN1415 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:We are finally very deep at guard. LoVett can break ankles, pass, penetrate, or even nail a 3. Ponds is deceptively quick, crafty, and can always pop his floater or shoot a 3. Mussini will be a catch and shoot guard and when he is warming up, watch out. He brought us the win vs. Cuse last year. Ellison is hurt but from what I hear it's nothing major. He was awful early on but really seemed to get settled towards the end of the season...he's also 6'6 so he will create major matchup problems. None of this even mentions 5 star Justin Simon the Arizona transfer who will suit up next year. I was at midnight madness and he is an athletic freak...he knows how to get to the rim.

My concern are the bigs. Sima looked good before injury last year and hasn't been the same since. Owens can rebound against smaller teams, but the wind can blow him over. Amar can shoot but he still stays away from the paint for the most part. Williams has been either injured or just plain bad since he came here. Yakwe is promising but he also needs to pack on some pounds. I never understood why we never go after those big 6'10-7'0 250-275 lb guys. We never seem to get the real monsters...just skinny skeletons. I always want a guy like a Pinkston (Nova) or a guy like Blair (Pitt). Yes they are 6'7, but look at their body types. They are bruisers and they are not afraid to throw their weight around in the paint.

I truly think we are 1-2 meaty bigs (with offensive skill like Blair, Pinkston, Stainbrook) away from being a consistently ranked team once the experience is there.


lol Joe3, I know now you don't go on redmen.
Over there are alot of Ahmed/Pinkston comparisions. Just read alittle.

Put a guard on him and Ahmed will bully him, put a big on him and he'll blow right by.
I'd prefer him and RF as the 2 forwards with Yakwe at center.


If Ahmed puts 30 lbs of muscle (Pinkston is 240 vs. 210 for Ahmed) on his frame then maybe. He's def not small but I wouldn't consider him to be a legit bruiser just yet at least at this level.
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