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Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby wildjays » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:58 am

As usual, several Big East schools are going to play closed scrimmages instead of exhibition games. Here is what I have right now:

Butler has 2 exhibition games.
Creighton has 1 exhibition game and will scrimmage Missouri in a return from last year
DePaul has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (don't know opponent)
Georgetown playing 2 scrimmages (opponents?)
Marquette has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (opponent?)
Providence has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (opponent?)
Seton Hall has 2 scrimmages (opponents?)
St. John's has 1 exhibition and scrimmages Rhode Island
Villanova has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (opponent?)
Xavier has 1 exhibition game & will scrimmage Georgia in Nashville on October 29th.

Can anyone fill in the missing spots?
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby David G » Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:20 am

Creighton will likely face a bigger challenge in their open exhibition game against whatever div2 or div3 team they play than they will be in their closed scrimmage against Mizzou.
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby wildjays » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:58 pm

wildjays wrote:As usual, several Big East schools are going to play closed scrimmages instead of exhibition games. Here is what I have right now:

Butler has 2 exhibition games.
Creighton has 1 exhibition game and will scrimmage Missouri in a return from last year
DePaul has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (don't know opponent)
Georgetown playing 2 scrimmages (opponents?)
Marquette has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage vs. DAYTON on Oct 29th at Bankers Life Fieldhouse
Providence has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (opponent?)
Seton Hall has 2 scrimmages (opponents?)
St. John's has 1 exhibition and scrimmages Rhode Island
Villanova has 1 exhibition and 1 scrimmage (opponent?)
Xavier has 1 exhibition game & will scrimmage Georgia in Nashville on October 29th.

Can anyone fill in the missing spots?


Filled in Marquette scrimmage vs Dayton
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:00 am

Thanks, wildjays.

Marquette to face Dayton in closed scrimmage - Matt Velazquez , Milwaukee Journal Sentinel - 10:10 p.m. CDT October 13, 2016
The Marquette men's basketball team will face outside opposition for the first time this season on Saturday, Oct. 29 when, according to a source, it will take on Dayton in a closed-door scrimmage that will be held at Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.

College basketball teams are allowed two contests against outside competition during the preseason and can choose any combination of exhibition games and so-called "secret scrimmages," which media and fans are not allowed to attend.

At the closed scrimmages, it's common that the format isn't a 40-minute game; rather, schools tend to opt for a combination of live game action as well as specific situations and drills. Stats and scores from the scrimmage are meant for the use of the schools involved.

This marks the third straight year under head coach Steve Wojciechowski that the Golden Eagles will go on the road for a closed scrimmage before returning home for an exhibition game at the BMO Harris Bradley Center. Marquette's exhibition game is Saturday, Nov. 5 against Division II Rockhurst.

In the past, Wojciechowski has spoken highly of closed-door scrimmages, saying they allow the team to see where it stands against Division I competition without the glare of the spotlight. They also can try things and practice specific game-type situations without putting them on film for other teams to see. These games also afford the Golden Eagles the opportunity to simulate the procedures and routines of a road trip before the season begins.

The scrimmage against Dayton marks the second straight year that Marquette is meeting a team on neutral ground in the preseason. Last Halloween, Marquette and Stanford scrimmaged at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.

A preseason closed scrimmage against a quality opponent is invaluable to coaching staffs, and has different priorities than regular-season games.

In order of importance, the coaches want to:

1. Evaluate the team’s newcomers (freshmen and eligible transfers) against quality competition. These players typically get more playing time than they might in early regular-season games.

2. Evaluate the effectiveness of a number of different player combinations on the court. For various reasons, some combinations are more effective than others, and the coaches need to know which combinations are the most and least effective.

3. Identify the strengths and weaknesses of the team as a whole, and the physical fitness of individual players in game situations.

4. Win the game.

The final score is usually leaked, but doesn’t mean much because of the purposes and format of the game. The point totals for leading players in a closed scrimmage are also usually leaked, but teams are not permitted to release the box score.

Last October, Dayton lost their closed scrimmage to Purdue (in Indianapolis) and in October 2014, Dayton lost to Illinois (in Indianapolis).

Best of luck to the Golden Eagles in the scrimmage and in the 2016-17 season.
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby milksteak » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:37 am

Our two exhibition games will be broadcasted by WISH-TV, the CW affiliate in Indianapolis. There's a good chance they'll have a stream online for anyone interested in getting an early look at Butler. The first exhibition is only 15 days away! :D

As an aside, WISH-TV is a total joke in Indianapolis. They were a CBS station, but they lost their affiliation because they underbid on the contract and lost it to another station. They also have an insanely annoying sports guy, so, if you watch any of the exhibitions, you might want to put the stream on mute...
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby FenwayFriar » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:57 pm

FYI- PC's exhibition is against Carleton of Canada. The closed scrimmage is against Northeastern.
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby Hall2012 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:54 am

Seton Hall's scrimmages are against Penn State and St. Joseph's*.

*Previously unnamed A10 opponent turns out to be St. Joe's.
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby wildjays » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:26 am

Here are all the Big East scrimmages as well as some others of interest.

http://whiteandbluereview.com/big-east- ... 17-season/
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby JohnW22 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:27 pm

Any Marquette fans have word on how their game vs UD is going?
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Re: Closed Scrimmages 2016-17

Postby UD Flyer Fanatic » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:48 pm

Not a Marquette fan, but was wondering the same thing.

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