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Postby adoraz » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:19 pm

stever20 wrote:Billyjack-
going indy would mean they would get a lot less money from the CFP. Instead of like last year where it was near 3 million for them(or 2 years ago with I believe over 1.5 million)- they would be looking at 300k. And the AAC even w/o Cincy and Houston is probably still the strongest G5 conference, so UConn would still have a real shot at an access bowl.

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All the AAC would need to keep the conference strong in basketball is 1 of Wichita or VCU. Big East isn't going to go to 14, so there would be at least 1 school available. And even still- that doesn't change the issue- the AAC will never allow UConn to remain in the AAC fb only.


Eh generally I'd agree they aren't going to 13 or 14...but in this case why not? You're always talking about what Fox wants. Don't you think they'd want to add UConn, VCU and Wichita? I mean, that'd be a crazy good conference.

Big East could essentially force UConn out of the AAC and park football elsewhere.
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Postby GumbyDamnit! » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:20 pm

_lh wrote:I don't see why any school would leave the Valley or A10 to play in the AAC as a basketball school. They would be leaving stable leagues for a league that 90% of the current teams are trying to leave. It won't happen.


Agree. If I were the A-10 I'd think about mirroring our success. Cut down on the # of teams and markets. Sell yourself as hoops centric, BE light.

10 teams:

St. Joe's
Dayton
VCU
Wich St
URI
UMASS
GWU
St. Louis
Davidson
Fordham

Not a bad conference.
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Re: Where is UCONN going? - The Jersey Guy

Postby muskienick » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:29 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
_lh wrote:I don't see why any school would leave the Valley or A10 to play in the AAC as a basketball school. They would be leaving stable leagues for a league that 90% of the current teams are trying to leave. It won't happen.


Agree. If I were the A-10 I'd think about mirroring our success. Cut down on the # of teams and markets. Sell yourself as hoops centric, BE light.

10 teams:

St. Joe's
Dayton
VCU
Wich St
URI
UMASS
GWU
St. Louis
Davidson
Fordham Richmond/George Mason/Detroit/CSU

Not a bad conference.


Fordham????? Really??????? The only thing good about Fordham is its presence in NYC and that "quality" is short-lived when you consider its home playing venue and its horrible in-conference record over their history in the A-10. I would swap out Fordham for the likes of Richmond or George Mason from the existing A-10 (even though each shares a metro area with an existing A-10 Member) or bring in Detroit or Cleveland State from the Horizon for the 10th member (along with Wichita as a no-brainer).
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Re: Where is UCONN going? - The Jersey Guy

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:40 pm

Report: Big East is UConn's Plan B if Big 12 bid fails
http://www.journalinquirer.com/sports/r ... 5e64d.html
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Postby ivet » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:14 pm

DudeAnon wrote:Report: Big East is UConn's Plan B if Big 12 bid fails
http://www.journalinquirer.com/sports/r ... 5e64d.html


That's cute. We're Plan B just in case the beauty queen rejects their offer to the prom.
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Postby Omaha1 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:17 pm

ivet wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:Report: Big East is UConn's Plan B if Big 12 bid fails
http://www.journalinquirer.com/sports/r ... 5e64d.html


That's cute. We're Plan B just in case the beauty queen rejects their offer to the prom.


I don't think the Big East wants UCONN. If I am the A-10 commissioner, I'd be reaching out to UCONN though.
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Postby MUPanther » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:00 pm

stever20 wrote:yeah pretty much no chance in hell the AAC would let UConn say in the AAC for football only. UConn fans are absolute morons if they really think the AAC would allow that.

I couldn't agree more.
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Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:00 am

DudeAnon wrote:
Report: Big East is UConn's Plan B if Big 12 bid fails
http://www.journalinquirer.com/sports/r ... 5e64d.html

Interesting article, but I don’t buy it. The "Report" that Jerry McGuire referred to in the title of his article is merely the suggestion of a single sportswriter:

The Journal Inquirer’s Jerry McGuire wrote:
Boston-based sportswriter Mark Blaudschun ... suggested the Big East as a home for UConn's "non-football varsity sports".

Blaudschun followed with a Tuesday commentary advocating UConn's return to the Big East.

No one with any authority in Connecticut has ever made such a suggestion – on or off the record.

The Journal Inquirer’s Jerry McGuire wrote:
Former Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese is a paid consultant to UConn President Susan Herbst, who in January said Tranghese advises her on "all matters athletic", with conference realignment believed to be the focus. Tranghese's contract is reported to be with the UConn Foundation, which is exempt from the state's Freedom of Information laws.

On Monday, Susan Herbst told the Hartford Courant that she would not lobby the Big 12 as many other schools have. She did not address the foundation's ongoing private effort to persuade the Big 12, which included the purchase of full-page newspaper advertising and billboards in the Dallas area in February.

Oklahoma sports columnist Berry Tramel, who first reported UConn was being considered for the Big 12 in December, is now suggesting the league may not really be interested in expanding. Tramel's theory is the Big 12 is using expansion as a "smokescreen" to get more money for its 10 schools from ESPN and Fox as a payoff for not expanding.

Let’s assume that Mike Tranghese is a smart guy who knows what he is talking about. It appears that Tranghese recognized the Big 12’s invitations to 20 universities to make presentations was just a delaying tactic being employed by the Big 12, and it would be a waste of time and resources for UConn to participate. It appears that Tranghese advised both Susan Herbst and the UConn Foundation accordingly, and they accepted his advice.

Susan Herbst is an employee of the State of Connecticut and she knows that she can be replaced by the Governor if she wanders off the reservation. It can be taken for granted that Susan Herbst isn’t going to rock the football boat. Nor is anyone else.

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In 1997, the Big East Conference gave the University of Connecticut and Villanova University a December 31 deadline to decide if they were going to upgrade their respective football programs and join the Big East football conference. Villanova, a private institution, declined the invitation. However, in October 1997, the University of Connecticut Board of Trustees overwhelmingly endorsed, by a vote of sixteen to one, the football team's plan to upgrade the program to Division I-A status.

The Big East is open to UConn's return, but it's a highly unlikely scenario
Dropping football would be admitting failure, not exactly a common trait among politicians or collegiate administrators. It would also be giving up the Power 5 dream and all that money. And it would definitely piss off some influential boosters. I just can't see it happening that way for the Huskies. And that means a Big East-UConn reunion probably isn't in the cards.

UConn football is going nowhere, and it is taking UConn basketball with it.

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Re: Where is UCONN going? - The Jersey Guy

Postby DudeAnon » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:18 am

Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:Interesting article, but I don’t buy it. The "Report" that Jerry McGuire referred to in the title of his article is merely the suggestion of a single sportswriter:


The "single sportswriter" has broken CR news before and likely has Mike Tranghese as his source. Tranghese is personally counseling Susan Herbst. Of course random Dayton fans with wikipedia access are more in the know so I will rely on you instead.
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Re: Where is UCONN going? - The Jersey Guy

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:50 am

DudeAnon wrote:
The "single sportswriter" . . . likely has Mike Tranghese as his source.

The "single sportswriter" Mark Blaudschun did not say nor in any way imply that Mike Tranghese (or anyone else) agreed with Blaudschun's suggestion that Big East is UConn's Plan B if Big 12 bid fails. In fact, the article you linked doesn't say that Mike Tranghese did anything at all. It only says who he is.
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