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Re: Pirates Review

Postby OmahaGuy » Tue May 24, 2016 10:33 pm

Whitehead is out but this team will still be a good team. Should make it back to the dance.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby Jet915 » Tue May 24, 2016 11:03 pm

OmahaGuy wrote:Whitehead is out but this team will still be a good team. Should make it back to the dance.


They will still be a good team, I'm thinking 4-5 region which is bubble territory.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby BigmanU » Wed May 25, 2016 10:25 am

I'm assuming Carrington will take the lead guard responsibilities? Any idea who the other starting guard will be until Jevon is eligible Powell, Gordon etc?
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby Hall2012 » Wed May 25, 2016 10:53 am

BigmanU wrote:I'm assuming Carrington will take the lead guard responsibilities? Any idea who the other starting guard will be until Jevon is eligible Powell, Gordon etc?


Rumor is that they had grad transfer Madison Jones (from Wake Forest) lined of for this scenario. If he comes, it'll presumably be with some baggage, however, as he was kicked off the WF team after getting a DUI. He then apparently transferred to Mercer but never made it there and instead finished up his degree at Wake Forest.

Carrington should get some good time at PG (especially until Thomas becomes eligible) but I expect he'll be more of a 2 guard with Thomas/Jones (if he does indeed come) alternating at point.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby SetonHallPat08 » Wed May 25, 2016 10:58 am

Hall2012 wrote:
BigmanU wrote:I'm assuming Carrington will take the lead guard responsibilities? Any idea who the other starting guard will be until Jevon is eligible Powell, Gordon etc?


Rumor is that they had grad transfer Madison Jones (from Wake Forest) lined of for this scenario. If he comes, it'll presumably be with some baggage, however, as he was kicked off the WF team after getting a DUI. He then apparently transferred to Mercer but never made it there and instead finished up his degree at Wake Forest.

Carrington should get some good time at PG (especially until Thomas becomes eligible) but I expect he'll be more of a 2 guard with Thomas/Jones (if he does indeed come) alternating at point.


Hall2012 is correct... Madison Jones (DWI at Wake) will be our starting PG and then Jevon Thomas (choked out a student during a Rec League game) will presumably take over once he comes back at the end of the 1st semester.

Basically our 2 PGs are complete headcases for next year. Yay us.

I would bet JT will be the lead guard with KC at 2G... KC switches over to PG with Eron Gordon and Myles Powell coming off the bench at the 2G/WG when we play a 3 guard line-up in BE play.

I'd bet Madison Jones will be the 4th or 5th guard in the rotation by January/February.

FWIW, Whitehead told SHU he was coming back to school last week and his mother and "advisors" talked him out of school for a "2nd round guarantee". Again, yay us.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby XtoDC » Wed May 25, 2016 4:56 pm

SetonHallPat08 wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
BigmanU wrote:I'm assuming Carrington will take the lead guard responsibilities? Any idea who the other starting guard will be until Jevon is eligible Powell, Gordon etc?


Rumor is that they had grad transfer Madison Jones (from Wake Forest) lined of for this scenario. If he comes, it'll presumably be with some baggage, however, as he was kicked off the WF team after getting a DUI. He then apparently transferred to Mercer but never made it there and instead finished up his degree at Wake Forest.

Carrington should get some good time at PG (especially until Thomas becomes eligible) but I expect he'll be more of a 2 guard with Thomas/Jones (if he does indeed come) alternating at point.


Hall2012 is correct... Madison Jones (DWI at Wake) will be our starting PG and then Jevon Thomas (choked out a student during a Rec League game) will presumably take over once he comes back at the end of the 1st semester.

Basically our 2 PGs are complete headcases for next year. Yay us.

I would bet JT will be the lead guard with KC at 2G... KC switches over to PG with Eron Gordon and Myles Powell coming off the bench at the 2G/WG when we play a 3 guard line-up in BE play.

I'd bet Madison Jones will be the 4th or 5th guard in the rotation by January/February.

FWIW, Whitehead told SHU he was coming back to school last week and his mother and "advisors" talked him out of school for a "2nd round guarantee". Again, yay us.

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Re: Pirates Review

Postby Hall2012 » Wed May 25, 2016 5:26 pm

XtoDC wrote:
SetonHallPat08 wrote:
Hall2012 is correct... Madison Jones (DWI at Wake) will be our starting PG and then Jevon Thomas (choked out a student during a Rec League game) will presumably take over once he comes back at the end of the 1st semester.

Basically our 2 PGs are complete headcases for next year. Yay us.

I would bet JT will be the lead guard with KC at 2G... KC switches over to PG with Eron Gordon and Myles Powell coming off the bench at the 2G/WG when we play a 3 guard line-up in BE play.

I'd bet Madison Jones will be the 4th or 5th guard in the rotation by January/February.

FWIW, Whitehead told SHU he was coming back to school last week and his mother and "advisors" talked him out of school for a "2nd round guarantee". Again, yay us.

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Now if only they "advised" him on what getting drafted in the second round means. I really hope someone jumps to take Isaiah late first round because the large majority of second round picks never play in the NBA. The smart ones go overseas and the stubborn ones rot in the d-league. Not saying he can't make it as a second round pick, but very few guys do.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby FDS » Thu May 26, 2016 9:11 am

Hall2012 wrote:
XtoDC wrote:
SetonHallPat08 wrote:
Hall2012 is correct... Madison Jones (DWI at Wake) will be our starting PG and then Jevon Thomas (choked out a student during a Rec League game) will presumably take over once he comes back at the end of the 1st semester.

Basically our 2 PGs are complete headcases for next year. Yay us.

I would bet JT will be the lead guard with KC at 2G... KC switches over to PG with Eron Gordon and Myles Powell coming off the bench at the 2G/WG when we play a 3 guard line-up in BE play.

I'd bet Madison Jones will be the 4th or 5th guard in the rotation by January/February.

FWIW, Whitehead told SHU he was coming back to school last week and his mother and "advisors" talked him out of school for a "2nd round guarantee". Again, yay us.

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Now if only they "advised" him on what getting drafted in the second round means. I really hope someone jumps to take Isaiah late first round because the large majority of second round picks never play in the NBA. The smart ones go overseas and the stubborn ones rot in the d-league. Not saying he can't make it as a second round pick, but very few guys do.



Shelvin Mack is doing just fine... but it took some time from the second round.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby Hall2012 » Thu May 26, 2016 9:49 am

FDS wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
Now if only they "advised" him on what getting drafted in the second round means. I really hope someone jumps to take Isaiah late first round because the large majority of second round picks never play in the NBA. The smart ones go overseas and the stubborn ones rot in the d-league. Not saying he can't make it as a second round pick, but very few guys do.



Shelvin Mack is doing just fine... but it took some time from the second round.


I didn't say none of them make it. Some, like Mack, do just fine. But the odds are a lot lower for a 2nd round pick than a 1st round pick. I personally think Whitehead would've been better off waiting another year, as it would've made him a surefire 1st round pick and potentially a lottery pick. He'd be able to make a lot more money than he will as a second round pick, in which his best case scenario is making league minimum for the first 3-4 years.
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Re: Pirates Review

Postby Jet915 » Thu May 26, 2016 10:46 am

Whitehead was a big piece but dont discount the loss of Gordon as well, he seemed like a glue guy that they will miss.
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