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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby milksteak » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:29 am

NovaBall wrote:I domt know why everything has to turn into a rankings, but since you asked...

1. Jay
2. Mack
3. McBuckets
4. JT3
5. Cooley
6. Holtman
7. WoJo
8. Willard
9. Mullin
10. Purnell


I think you're underrating Cooley and Holtmann and overrating McDermott and JT3. Just my two cents. Rest of it seems fine to me.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby scoscox » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:31 am

hoyahooligan wrote:
scoscox wrote:
NovaBall wrote:I domt know why everything has to turn into a rankings, but since you asked...

1. Jay
2. Mack
3. McBuckets
4. JT3
5. Cooley
6. Holtman
7. WoJo
8. Willard
9. Mullin
10. Purnell


Way too much love for JTIII imo.


Oh how many of the coaches below him have won a BE regular season title? (None) Or a BET title? (Willard and Cooley), been to the sweet 16? (none) how about a final 4? (None again).

In fact the only one on that list that has also done those things is Jay Wright. If anything he should be higher McBuckets hasn't done any of the things I listed and Mack has only gotten t the sweet 16 on that list. You can talk about how he's underachieved with the talent he's had and you'll get no argument but on results he has a better resume than anyone besides Jay.


Fair enough. Just my opinion. Obviously I am tainted by a recency bias here.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby Demon22 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:19 pm

Is there any way to make Purnell lower than 10th?
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby FriarJ » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:32 pm

The funny thing for me as a Friar fan I have no problem with the rankings given in this regarding Cooley. I also know that not many Providence fans would want to replace him with any coach on that list.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby xusandy » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:48 pm

Well, Leitao does indeed have his work cut out for him if/when he competes with other BE schools for recruits. But then, he's at least a minor step up from Oliver Purnell, who himself has had a long history of returning weak programs to decency (Dayton, Clemson, Depaul) -- not a bad legacy at all for Oliver. Every other position in these rankings is debatable. I happen to believe that Mack may prove to be a better coach than Wright over the course of his career, but these rankings are subject to revision every year, depending on team performance in just one tournament. What a pity.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:46 pm

xusandy wrote:I happen to believe that Mack may prove to be a better coach than Wright over the course of his career, but these rankings are subject to revision every year, depending on team performance in just one tournament. What a pity.


Quite the prediction. So you expect (at minimum) for Mack to:

1. Win at least 3 BE regular season championships.
2. Win a BET.
3. Take X to the # 1 ranking.
4. Go to at least 2 FF's.
5. Win a NC.
6. Win Naismith COY 2x
7. Win BE COY 3x.

Of course this is all while JW stops being successful at the same time.

Bold prediction. Would have thought as an X fan especially that you can appreciate just how difficult it is to get to a single FF let alone 2, not to mention the NC. But I guess we'll see. Would be tremendous for the league if Mack and X accomplished those things.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby DudeAnon » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:26 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
xusandy wrote:I happen to believe that Mack may prove to be a better coach than Wright over the course of his career, but these rankings are subject to revision every year, depending on team performance in just one tournament. What a pity.


Quite the prediction. So you expect (at minimum) for Mack to:

1. Win at least 3 BE regular season championships.
2. Win a BET.
3. Take X to the # 1 ranking.
4. Go to at least 2 FF's.
5. Win a NC.
6. Win Naismith COY 2x
7. Win BE COY 3x.

Of course this is all while JW stops being successful at the same time.

Bold prediction. Would have thought as an X fan especially that you can appreciate just how difficult it is to get to a single FF let alone 2, not to mention the NC. But I guess we'll see. Would be tremendous for the league if Mack and X accomplished those things.


Calm down buddy. Jay Wright has been in the BE for 14 years I believe. And Nova is a higher quality program than X in general. Give Mack another decade in the BE and he might be closer to those accomplishments.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:30 am

DudeAnon wrote:
GumbyDamnit! wrote:
xusandy wrote:I happen to believe that Mack may prove to be a better coach than Wright over the course of his career, but these rankings are subject to revision every year, depending on team performance in just one tournament. What a pity.


Quite the prediction. So you expect (at minimum) for Mack to:

1. Win at least 3 BE regular season championships.
2. Win a BET.
3. Take X to the # 1 ranking.
4. Go to at least 2 FF's.
5. Win a NC.
6. Win Naismith COY 2x
7. Win BE COY 3x.

Of course this is all while JW stops being successful at the same time.

Bold prediction. Would have thought as an X fan especially that you can appreciate just how difficult it is to get to a single FF let alone 2, not to mention the NC. But I guess we'll see. Would be tremendous for the league if Mack and X accomplished those things.


Calm down buddy. Jay Wright has been in the BE for 14 years I believe. And Nova is a higher quality program than X in general. Give Mack another decade in the BE and he might be closer to those accomplishments.


Not sure why I have to "calm down." Thought my response was rather "calm" already. The BE specific accomplishments I cited only considered the last 3 years, not 14. I did not mention the other BE regular season championships or BE COY accolades. My point, calmly stated "buddy" was that Mack had his work cut out for him if he were to be considered "better than Wright over his career," as the poster predicted. What part of my response did you feel I was getting too hyped about?
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby scoscox » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:41 am

For coaching three years in the Big East, he seems like he has a decent shot at it based on his current path.
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Re: Big East Coaches

Postby BigmanU » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:00 am

This should be the only thing that matters (Conference Wins) when ranking coaches production. (Average wins since new BEast inception 13-14 season)

1)Villanova 16 Wins
2)Xavier 11 Wins
3)Providence 10 1/3 Wins
4)Georgetown 9 Wins
4)Creighton 9 Wins
5)Seton Hall 8 Wins
6)Marquette 7 Wins

TBD
Butler 8 2/3 Wins (Holtman 2yr avg 11 Wins) Next year will be the true test
St John's 7 Wins (1st year coach 1 Win)
DePaul 4 Wins (1st Year coach 3 Wins)
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