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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby ChelseaFriar » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:43 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Boy, how would you feel if you were Florida State, UNC, Virginia, and/or Clemson? Maryland and Rutgers will be receiving over $42 million per year under the new B1G TV deal, and those schools won't even get half that in a given year. Over the course of 10 years, you're looking at a TV-revenue deficit of nearly $200 million. One would think that this could be the prologue of a UNC/Virginia/Georgia Tech/FSU defection to the B1G, and a NCST/VT move to the SEC.


It's a bit disturbing that Rutgers is getting that kind of money. In 11 years of living in Manhattan I think I've met one guy who cares about Rutgers football (and that was when they had Ray Rice - I'm guessing he no longer cares).
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Postby NJRedman » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:49 pm

ChelseaFriar wrote:
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Boy, how would you feel if you were Florida State, UNC, Virginia, and/or Clemson? Maryland and Rutgers will be receiving over $42 million per year under the new B1G TV deal, and those schools won't even get half that in a given year. Over the course of 10 years, you're looking at a TV-revenue deficit of nearly $200 million. One would think that this could be the prologue of a UNC/Virginia/Georgia Tech/FSU defection to the B1G, and a NCST/VT move to the SEC.


It's a bit disturbing that Rutgers is getting that kind of money. In 11 years of living in Manhattan I think I've met one guy who cares about Rutgers football (and that was when they had Ray Rice - I'm guessing he no longer cares).


I root for Rutgers and I know a bunch of folks who do too. They have a decent team and their new coach has me excited, the Ohio State D-coordinator.
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby stever20 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:55 pm

adoraz wrote:Stever I see you downplaying this on the conference realignment board. Not quite sure why. This is a major win for the Big East and Fox. Solidifies FS1 as a go to channel for college hoops and will further help improve ratings. Fox only has half the games (not counting BTN games), so there won't be so many games scheduled that it'd take away a significant amount of airtime for the Big East.

We all knew after the rights to the Big Ten it'd be a while before other rights are up for grabs. So what exactly did Fox need from this for it to be good in your book? If they got 100% of the games you'd say that the Big East will be pushed to FS2. If they got none of the games you'd say the channel was doomed. They can't win in your world.

Make no mistake about it, this is a major win for Fox, FS1, the Big East, Big Ten, and everyone involved.


ESPN during the conference season aired roughly 5 conference games a week for basketball- the rest went to the Big Ten Network.... . Part of it when you think about it- ESPN aired 7 games in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge, another couple in the Gavitt games, and then other OOC games. I'm sorry- but I don't think if FS1 gets only 2-3 games a week that it's going to make a huge difference for basketball. The biggest difference will be OOC. Instead of the garbage Big East OOC games being on FS1, they'll have better OOC games from the Big Ten. That's a big plus for FS1.

To me the Magic number for basketball would have been about 4 games a week- or 80%. like 2 weeknights and 2 weekend games.

The other thing that will be interesting will be the # of games on Big Fox. I have to think that the Big Ten will take some of the slots that the Big East has had. The question becomes would Fox add more....

The one thing that will be interesting to watch. It starts 2017-18. That's the year the Big Ten is at MSG. So would be more condensed schedule presumably.
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby ChelseaFriar » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:56 pm

NJRedman wrote:
ChelseaFriar wrote:
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Boy, how would you feel if you were Florida State, UNC, Virginia, and/or Clemson? Maryland and Rutgers will be receiving over $42 million per year under the new B1G TV deal, and those schools won't even get half that in a given year. Over the course of 10 years, you're looking at a TV-revenue deficit of nearly $200 million. One would think that this could be the prologue of a UNC/Virginia/Georgia Tech/FSU defection to the B1G, and a NCST/VT move to the SEC.


It's a bit disturbing that Rutgers is getting that kind of money. In 11 years of living in Manhattan I think I've met one guy who cares about Rutgers football (and that was when they had Ray Rice - I'm guessing he no longer cares).


I root for Rutgers and I know a bunch of folks who do too. They have a decent team and their new coach has me excited, the Ohio State D-coordinator.


Interesting, okay. I have nothing personal against them. I just have not come across many, if any, who follow the team. I'm sure that would be different if I lived in a NJ town. I work and live in the city so I guess I don't have my finger on the pulse of it.

I actually don't hear a ton of college football talk at work other than ND and Michigan alumni (I'm sure others too, but they jump out at me). I hear college hoops talk nonstop as I work, and have worked, with a number of grads of Duke, UNC, Georgetown, Villanova, SH, SJU, Syracuse, UConn, etc.
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby NJRedman » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:07 pm

ChelseaFriar wrote:
NJRedman wrote:
I root for Rutgers and I know a bunch of folks who do too. They have a decent team and their new coach has me excited, the Ohio State D-coordinator.


Interesting, okay. I have nothing personal against them. I just have not come across many, if any, who follow the team. I'm sure that would be different if I lived in a NJ town. I work and live in the city so I guess I don't have my finger on the pulse of it.

I actually don't hear a ton of college football talk at work other than ND and Michigan alumni (I'm sure others too, but they jump out at me). I hear college hoops talk nonstop as I work, and have worked, with a number of grads of Duke, UNC, Georgetown, Villanova, SH, SJU, Syracuse, UConn, etc.


Well to be fair, Rutgers fans haven't had much to talk about lately! haha

Flood was a mistake and he settled for mediocrity. He couldn't recruit well and wasn't a great in game coach.

Yes, lots of block R's on cars in NJ. They do well with attendance for FB and their games have good ratings, especially when they are good.
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:10 pm

It's one thing to be an ACC team and be behind Rutgers and Maryland (a former conference mate) in TV revenue; it's another thing entirely to be UConn (and be a part of the American TV deal) and see Rutgers receiving close to $50 million more per year under the B1G Fox/eventual NBC deal.

The gap between the schools of power conferences and those of that from the Group of 5 schools is getting larger and larger each year. Other than Utah and TCU, no school from a non-power conference was "called-up" to the power conference-level - and those two schools brought consistent winning programs, won big BCS games before being invited, and finished a season in the top-5. No Group of 5 school, other than Boise State, has ever accomplished that feat.

I know the subject of UConn is a touchy one around here, and I'm not pushing one way or the other, but I just don't see how they will be able to continue to compete in football when all of their regional rivals are getting tens of millions of dollars annually and they are only getting pennies compared to them. Over the course of a 10-year stretch, that really adds up (literally).
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby novahoops11 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:33 pm

NJRedman wrote:I root for Rutgers


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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby NJRedman » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:41 pm

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NJRedman wrote:I root for Rutgers


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I'm a Jersey boy, I wont be a front runner. Could be worse, I could have picked Penn State.

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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby CoachK » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:54 pm

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Yes, lots of block R's on cars in NJ.


Did you type that wrong?
Sure you didn't mean - "Lots of cars on blocks in NJ" :lol:
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Re: FOX close on B1G deal

Postby FriarJ » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:23 am

stever20 wrote:
adoraz wrote:Stever I see you downplaying this on the conference realignment board. Not quite sure why. This is a major win for the Big East and Fox. Solidifies FS1 as a go to channel for college hoops and will further help improve ratings. Fox only has half the games (not counting BTN games), so there won't be so many games scheduled that it'd take away a significant amount of airtime for the Big East.

We all knew after the rights to the Big Ten it'd be a while before other rights are up for grabs. So what exactly did Fox need from this for it to be good in your book? If they got 100% of the games you'd say that the Big East will be pushed to FS2. If they got none of the games you'd say the channel was doomed. They can't win in your world.

Make no mistake about it, this is a major win for Fox, FS1, the Big East, Big Ten, and everyone involved.


ESPN during the conference season aired roughly 5 conference games a week for basketball- the rest went to the Big Ten Network.... . Part of it when you think about it- ESPN aired 7 games in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge, another couple in the Gavitt games, and then other OOC games. I'm sorry- but I don't think if FS1 gets only 2-3 games a week that it's going to make a huge difference for basketball. The biggest difference will be OOC. Instead of the garbage Big East OOC games being on FS1, they'll have better OOC games from the Big Ten. That's a big plus for FS1.

To me the Magic number for basketball would have been about 4 games a week- or 80%. like 2 weeknights and 2 weekend games.

The other thing that will be interesting will be the # of games on Big Fox. I have to think that the Big Ten will take some of the slots that the Big East has had. The question becomes would Fox add more....

The one thing that will be interesting to watch. It starts 2017-18. That's the year the Big Ten is at MSG. So would be more condensed schedule presumably.

So 3 games a week sucks but 4 games a week is good. Mods, is there a block function here? I'm done with this guy as should we all be.
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