Bracketology

[Hall2012]

People are still sleeping in seton hall. The hall will be closer to a 7 seed than a 12 seed.

A lot with Seton Hall is going to be determined here in the next 3 weeks.... Butler, @ Georgetown, @ St John's, PC, X, @ Butler. Going to need to win one of the road games @ Georgetown or @ Butler to really move up a lot. Right now 9-6 vs RPI top 200 isn't great.

Way to only include the part of the story that supports your agenda. Yeah, 9-6 vs the RPI top 200 doesn't look great on its own, but let's consider all the facts. 0 of those losses have come to teams outside the top 100 and 3 of them have come to teams inside the top 10. Furthermore, 6 of those wins have come against teams in the top 100. 6-3 against the rpi 11-100 isn't bad at all.

[SJUBBALL]

Yea Hall2012 caught you there Stever. Blatant trolling/bending the truth.

[DudeAnon]

Kenpom could be their savior. Its 39 right now.

Also, momentum and/or eye test can't hurt. Committe has been known to use both.

[stever20]

People are still sleeping in seton hall. The hall will be closer to a 7 seed than a 12 seed.

A lot with Seton Hall is going to be determined here in the next 3 weeks.... Butler, @ Georgetown, @ St John's, PC, X, @ Butler. Going to need to win one of the road games @ Georgetown or @ Butler to really move up a lot. Right now 9-6 vs RPI top 200 isn't great.

Way to only include the part of the story that supports your agenda. Yeah, 9-6 vs the RPI top 200 doesn't look great on its own, but let's consider all the facts. 0 of those losses have come to teams outside the top 100 and 3 of them have come to teams inside the top 10. Furthermore, 6 of those wins have come against teams in the top 100. 6-3 against the rpi 11-100 isn't bad at all.

9 wins against top 200 isn't good. Only Oregon St(#41), Valpo(#45), Kansas St(#48) in the top 49 have 9 top 200 wins besides Seton Hall. #50 St Mary's only has 5.

They have at least 5 games coming up vs the RPI top 200. St John's could get in there if they beat DePaul 2x somehow. If they only go say 2-3 in the 5 big games- they would be only 11-9 vs RPI top 200. They'll get in, but it'll be closer to first four than a good seed.

Also Seton Hall has got to hope that Ole Miss and Creighton can stay in the top 100.

Like I said, a lot about them will be set in these next 3 weeks. They could play their way into a top 5-6 seed even, or play their way to Dayton or even the NIT.

[Hall2012]

nobody gives a f*** about wins against teams ranked 101-200. Those games are only about avoiding losses, of which Seton Hall currently has 0. You can't win games you don't play. Outside of taking care of their own business, the most helpful things for the hall would be Creighton/ole miss staying in the top 100 and Marquette getting in.

[stever20]

nobody gives a f*** about wins against teams ranked 101-200. Those games are only about avoiding losses, of which Seton Hall currently has 0. You can't win games you don't play. Outside of taking care of their own business, the most helpful things for the hall would be Creighton/ole miss staying in the top 100 and Marquette getting in.

Seton Hall's problem is their garbage OOC schedule. #243 right now. They have 8 wins 201 or worse(7 OOC). That is what is holding them back right now quite frankly. It's Seton Hall's fault that they didn't play more teams in that 101-200 range instead of Cupcake St that they played. They would be wise to not fall apart here in the next 3 weeks.

And looking. Seton Hall has 13 top 75 games this year. They've played 8- going 4-4 in those 8. Have 5 games left. Those 5 are going to say whether SH is a 5-7 type seed or if they are a FF/NIT team.

[DudeAnon]

Something I have been thinking recently. How much is OOC SOS depending on budgets? I would presume the better the buy game the more it costs and home & home requires giving up game revenue altogether. Interesting thought I have never heard discussed.

[ChelseaFriar]

Something I have been thinking recently. How much is OOC SOS depending on budgets? I would presume the better the buy game the more it costs and home & home requires giving up game revenue altogether. Interesting thought I have never heard discussed.

Don't know about buy games, but PC literally can't find a Football 5 team to do a home & home other than BC. They try every year.

[Hall2012]

nobody gives a f*** about wins against teams ranked 101-200. Those games are only about avoiding losses, of which Seton Hall currently has 0. You can't win games you don't play. Outside of taking care of their own business, the most helpful things for the hall would be Creighton/ole miss staying in the top 100 and Marquette getting in.

Seton Hall's problem is their garbage OOC schedule. #243 right now. They have 8 wins 201 or worse(7 OOC). That is what is holding them back right now quite frankly. It's Seton Hall's fault that they didn't play more teams in that 101-200 range instead of Cupcake St that they played. They would be wise to not fall apart here in the next 3 weeks.

And looking. Seton Hall has 13 top 75 games this year. They've played 8- going 4-4 in those 8. Have 5 games left. Those 5 are going to say whether SH is a 5-7 type seed or if they are a FF/NIT team.

Yeah, the ooc schedule is bad, but I really do question the size of the gap between and rpi 150 team and an rpi 200 team. They just didn't play their numbers well. And the committee should recognize that they did play 3 very good ooc games including Wichita State, Georgia, and a true road game @GW. The Long Beach State loss was particularly disappointing because it cost them a game with Virginia.

[stever20]

nobody gives a f*** about wins against teams ranked 101-200. Those games are only about avoiding losses, of which Seton Hall currently has 0. You can't win games you don't play. Outside of taking care of their own business, the most helpful things for the hall would be Creighton/ole miss staying in the top 100 and Marquette getting in.

Seton Hall's problem is their garbage OOC schedule. #243 right now. They have 8 wins 201 or worse(7 OOC). That is what is holding them back right now quite frankly. It's Seton Hall's fault that they didn't play more teams in that 101-200 range instead of Cupcake St that they played. They would be wise to not fall apart here in the next 3 weeks.

And looking. Seton Hall has 13 top 75 games this year. They've played 8- going 4-4 in those 8. Have 5 games left. Those 5 are going to say whether SH is a 5-7 type seed or if they are a FF/NIT team.

Yeah, the ooc schedule is bad, but I really do question the size of the gap between and rpi 150 team and an rpi 200 team. They just didn't play their numbers well. And the committee should recognize that they did play 3 very good ooc games including Wichita State, Georgia, and a true road game @GW. The Long Beach State loss was particularly disappointing because it cost them a game with Virginia.

I wouldn't exactly call Georgia a good OOC game. They might not finish top 100- have a pretty tough schedule left with some road games.... They need to go 3-4 and aren't favored in any game by more than 67%.

I would say look at this year.
RPI 150 type team- DePaul
RPI 200 type team- St John's

I'd say there's a pretty big difference there wouldn't you say?