Bracketology

[NovaBigEastFan85]

What PC is going to find now is their road is going to be tougher than expected even a few weeks ago. They're looking at like a 6 or 7 seed I think so 1st game even will be with a team that could beat them. Instead of seeing someone like an Akron, South Dakota St- someone of that ilk, they're looking at someone more like a Cincy, Gonzaga type of team. Also if they're a 6, they could be once again at the mercy of playing a first 4 winner. Those teams do extremely well for themselves the next round(think a first 4 winner has gone on to win at least 1 game in all 5 years- and are 5-5 overall in the 5 years in the round of 64).

comment from Ed Cooley last year regarding the 1st 4 winner:
The one factor that bothers me....and I don't know how the committee could ever change it or fix it — but the layoff and preparation factor is a different animal if you're playing the winner of a play-in game. We had a great season and earned a 6 seed in the tournament. However, after finding out our fate on Selection Sunday, we don't get to prepare with our kids for the Friday night opponent until Thursday afternoon.

Yeah, last year PC got completely shafted with the game also being in Ohio. However, they were beyond terrible (similar to last night).

Regarding this year, other than the first round I'm not so sure how much seeding helps PC. I think it all depends on which PC team shows up if they want to make it to the second weekend. As we've seen, it doesn't matter who they play if the good PC doesn't show up. I'd like for them to avoid the 8/9 game - playing a 1 seed in round 2 if they win wouldn't be fun. Other than that I don't really care at this point. I'd rather PC get a 10 or 11 seed than an 8/9.

I don't think PC will get either. Unless they collapse, 6 seed is the worse they get and more like a 4/5 seed. Beating Nova even at WF is BIG, much bigger than losing a road game to DePaul. I do get your general pov because we all want the best matchups for our teams to get as far as we can get through the tourney.

[stever20]

What PC is going to find now is their road is going to be tougher than expected even a few weeks ago. They're looking at like a 6 or 7 seed I think so 1st game even will be with a team that could beat them. Instead of seeing someone like an Akron, South Dakota St- someone of that ilk, they're looking at someone more like a Cincy, Gonzaga type of team. Also if they're a 6, they could be once again at the mercy of playing a first 4 winner. Those teams do extremely well for themselves the next round(think a first 4 winner has gone on to win at least 1 game in all 5 years- and are 5-5 overall in the 5 years in the round of 64).

comment from Ed Cooley last year regarding the 1st 4 winner:
The one factor that bothers me....and I don't know how the committee could ever change it or fix it — but the layoff and preparation factor is a different animal if you're playing the winner of a play-in game. We had a great season and earned a 6 seed in the tournament. However, after finding out our fate on Selection Sunday, we don't get to prepare with our kids for the Friday night opponent until Thursday afternoon.

Yeah, last year PC got completely shafted with the game also being in Ohio. However, they were beyond terrible (similar to last night).

Regarding this year, other than the first round I'm not so sure how much seeding helps PC. I think it all depends on which PC team shows up if they want to make it to the second weekend. As we've seen, it doesn't matter who they play if the good PC doesn't show up. I'd like for them to avoid the 8/9 game - playing a 1 seed in round 2 if they win wouldn't be fun. Other than that I don't really care at this point. I'd rather PC get a 10 or 11 seed than an 8/9.

I don't think PC will get either. Unless they collapse, 6 seed is the worse they get and more like a 4/5 seed. Beating Nova even at WF is BIG, much bigger than losing a road game to DePaul. I do get your general pov because we all want the best matchups for our teams to get as far as we can get through the tourney.

Even right now they would be like a 6-7 seed. in Bracket Matrix before last night they were 4.83 average. Their numbers are for such a good team pretty bad. Right now- RPI is 28 and KP is 47. And the Bentil situation will be huge going forward.

[stever20]

new bracket from USA Today.....
Xavier 1 E
Nova 2 MW
PC 6 MW
SH 12 S FF

Butler and Georgetown not even in one of the first 4 out....

might be a good one to keep on following:
About our bracketologist: Shelby Mast has been projecting the field since 2005 and has finished as one of the top 5 national bracketologists for his website, Bracket W.A.G. He’s predicted for The Indianapolis Star, collegeinsider.com and is an inaugural member of the Super 10 Selection Committee. Follow him on Twitter @BracketWag.

[kmacker69]

We'll know a lot more after next week when Butler and S Hall play at S Hall. The winner will have an inside track, the loser will have a very narrow path to get in...

[stever20]

Found first time the one from Patrick Stevens....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spo ... -the-road/
Butler 12 S FF
Providence 7 S
Xavier 2 W
Villanova 1 E
Seton Hall 10 E

Dream scenario for Nova of course.

PC will be the interesting one to watch. Have a feeling with all the Friday bracketology that is coming out on Friday that we're going to see a lot of 6's and 7's.

The one logistical thing I have with him that I disagree with. He's got UConn as the AAC champion and not Cincy. That would impact things as Cincy would avoid a FF game. Would move Butler to the last team in the field as UConn is safely in right now.

Georgetown 3rd team out right now.

[stever20]

CBS:
Butler 11 MW FF(3rd team in)
Xavier 1 MW
Seton Hall 9 W
Providence 5 E
Nova 2 E

[BEX]

Maybe another BE spot with the UL fiasco.

[stever20]

Maybe another BE spot with the UL fiasco.

Probably not. 5's the max.

Creighton, Marquette- must go 7-1 rest of the way. Not happening.
Georgetown must go 5-3 rest of the way. Still have all 3 of the big 3, plus Seton Hall 2x. I know we're bi-polar- but most likely no.

Might help Seton Hall, Butler avoid Dayton.

[stever20]

CBS:
Butler 11 MW FF(3rd team in)
Xavier 1 MW
Seton Hall 9 W
Providence 5 E
Nova 2 E

Palm updated his bracket after the Louisville news... some interesting stuff.....
Butler now 12 W FF. 4th team in.......
SH moves up from 9 to 8. Now in South....

Xavier, PC, Nova remain the same.

Really not sure why Butler who was a 11 earlier now is a 12. That really makes no sense at all... Of course, that's Palm for you....

ESPN's bracket says as of 2/5, but it's the exact same as Monday's bracket. Oof....

[UD Flyer Fanatic]

Joey Brackets has UD facing Providence in the 2nd round of the tournament. It got me thinking- do BE fans take Dayton lightly (especially after the beat down our friends to the south gave us earlier this year)? Or is Dayton a team you’d rather not face in an early round?

Also in light of the BE seemingly not at all interested in expanding- do any of you see Dayton as a desirable future OOC opponent?