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Postby MUPanther » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:38 pm

stever20 wrote:
MUPanther wrote:Joe Davis and Jim Jackson is a strong team. Bill Raftety is working on CBS on Saturday. BTN has 5 games on Saturday.

They may be a strong team, but isn't Gus Johnson, the clear #1 guy. The Butler/Xavier game is the clear #1 game on Saturday, but best guy isn't calling the game? Seems kind of strange to me. Heck, you could make the case that the best game has the #3 announcing group(I think Brando/Bahe would be #2 over Davis/Jackson).
Can't disagree with that logic. I would say Joe Davis is a close #2 guy. He was during cfb.

Joe Davis is calling the Lions/Bears on Sunday. That's why he is in Cincinnati for an early start.
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Postby FlyByNight101 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:45 pm

Watson is averaging 2.5 TO/gm this season, with about a 2.5/1 assist to To ratio. He is also only averaging 2 turnovers per game in the last month.

Hardly turnover prone.[/quote]


you can throw away those stats (against mostly inferior opponents). the games I've watched he forces issues too much at times and looks to be out of control.[/quote]

By all means, don't let facts get n the way of your narrative.
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Postby stever20 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:39 pm

Watson vs Indiana, Arizona St, Oklahoma- 18 ast 9 turnovers 3 to per game, 2-1 ast/to ratio

vs other 11 teams(none of which in the top 140- 73 ast 28 turnovers 2.60 ast/to ratio 2.5 turnovers per game

if you add St John's to the 3 good teams... 26 ast 14 turnovers 1.86 ast/to ratio- 3.5 to per game with bad games then 65 ast 23 turnovers 2.83 ast/to ratio, 2.3 to per game

against the good teams- he is turnover prone.
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Postby BEhomer » Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:43 pm

or you can pull off a stever and use stats to make your argument rather than making a basketball observation.
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Postby Jet915 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:29 pm

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Postby jln » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:54 pm

stever20 wrote:Watson vs Indiana, Arizona St, Oklahoma- 18 ast 9 turnovers 3 to per game, 2-1 ast/to ratio

vs other 11 teams(none of which in the top 140- 73 ast 28 turnovers 2.60 ast/to ratio 2.5 turnovers per game

if you add St John's to the 3 good teams... 26 ast 14 turnovers 1.86 ast/to ratio- 3.5 to per game with bad games then 65 ast 23 turnovers 2.83 ast/to ratio, 2.3 to per game

against the good teams- he is turnover prone.


It's pretty funny that you would look up those stats from those first three games and point out that he had 18 assists to 9 turnovers but choose not to disclose he was 16 to 4 in the Oklahoma and Arizona State games. Basically you just showed he was awful against Indiana.

It looks to me like the evidence thus far from this year would basically support that Watson has been good in games he's been good in and bad in games he's been bad in.
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Postby stever20 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:02 am

jln wrote:
stever20 wrote:Watson vs Indiana, Arizona St, Oklahoma- 18 ast 9 turnovers 3 to per game, 2-1 ast/to ratio

vs other 11 teams(none of which in the top 140- 73 ast 28 turnovers 2.60 ast/to ratio 2.5 turnovers per game

if you add St John's to the 3 good teams... 26 ast 14 turnovers 1.86 ast/to ratio- 3.5 to per game with bad games then 65 ast 23 turnovers 2.83 ast/to ratio, 2.3 to per game

against the good teams- he is turnover prone.


It's pretty funny that you would look up those stats from those first three games and point out that he had 18 assists to 9 turnovers but choose not to disclose he was 16 to 4 in the Oklahoma and Arizona State games. Basically you just showed he was awful against Indiana.

It looks to me like the evidence thus far from this year would basically support that Watson has been good in games he's been good in and bad in games he's been bad in.

the thing with him for all the games.... his turnover rate is 19.8%. Last year it was 20.1%- for the entire season.

He was 8/5 vs St John's for gosh sakes. That's not good.
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Postby Ajay0626 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:21 am

From what I have seen so far this season, Mo Watson's impact on the game will depend more on fouls than turnovers. He gets a little ahead of himself at times and turns the ball over, but he is our best point guard and he can't help anyone if he is sitting on the bench like he was in the Indiana game. Same goes for Kyrie Thomas and Cole Huff.
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Postby EMT » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:16 am

Jet915 wrote:We ready?

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Look at that poor little boy under Dunn......

It's shocking what Lavin left for Mullin to work with.
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Postby chicagojayfan » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:49 am

stever20 wrote:
jln wrote:
stever20 wrote:Watson vs Indiana, Arizona St, Oklahoma- 18 ast 9 turnovers 3 to per game, 2-1 ast/to ratio

vs other 11 teams(none of which in the top 140- 73 ast 28 turnovers 2.60 ast/to ratio 2.5 turnovers per game

if you add St John's to the 3 good teams... 26 ast 14 turnovers 1.86 ast/to ratio- 3.5 to per game with bad games then 65 ast 23 turnovers 2.83 ast/to ratio, 2.3 to per game

against the good teams- he is turnover prone.


It's pretty funny that you would look up those stats from those first three games and point out that he had 18 assists to 9 turnovers but choose not to disclose he was 16 to 4 in the Oklahoma and Arizona State games. Basically you just showed he was awful against Indiana.

It looks to me like the evidence thus far from this year would basically support that Watson has been good in games he's been good in and bad in games he's been bad in.

the thing with him for all the games.... his turnover rate is 19.8%. Last year it was 20.1%- for the entire season.

He was 8/5 vs St John's for gosh sakes. That's not good.


He's improving. I thought he played well during the SJs game. He's the right guy to push the tempo and distribute, which he did very well in that game. He would have had quite a few more assists if our outside players had been hitting any shots, but they were pretty cold, and I am not sure all the turnovers were entirely his fault.

Anyway, they are a young team learning to play on the road and the SJs game was a good confidence builder. The team in general, and Watson as part of that, has played better at home so I expect a good showing from him and the rest today.
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