Just Dreaming

[BigmanU]

One other point of emphasis...

The Big East is a year ahead of schedule. Next year the league as a whole will be even better, especially if Ellenson sticks around 1 more year. Maybe Kris Dunn is charting a new path for top college players, showing that with an extra college season players can work on their games in a low pressure atmosphere and improve their draft stock.

This sounds about right.

Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier & Marquette (pending Ellenson) shouldn't miss a beat

The following 3 teams will have NCAA talent but TBD
Seton Hall will be a contender with or without Whitehead
St. John's will be improved with their incoming class
Creighton will be improved w/ Foster

The two teams taking a step back will be Butler (with the loses of Jones & Dunham) & Providence who will lose Dunn. Both however have the talent to compete unless Providence loses Bentil also.
DePaul will be DePaul

I actually see seven teams dancing next year!

[gtmoBlue]

My dream? The B1G and SEC gut the ACC and the remnants of the ACC and Big XII join up but not all members. BC and Cuse not wanting to be in the AAC decide to drop FB to FBS and return to the Big East where they belong. UConn decides the same and comes home as well. Notre Dame being forever FB independent decides to rejoin their fellow catholic schools for all sports except FB.

Is it a realistic dream? Oh god no, but it's a dream none the less.

One helluva dream Fella. Replace ND w Duke and I'd be good with a 6-7 place annual finish, with a flash into the top5 every few years - would be one heck of a league. Wow.

[MUBoxer]

My dream? The B1G and SEC gut the ACC and the remnants of the ACC and Big XII join up but not all members. BC and Cuse not wanting to be in the AAC decide to drop FB to FBS and return to the Big East where they belong. UConn decides the same and comes home as well. Notre Dame being forever FB independent decides to rejoin their fellow catholic schools for all sports except FB.

Is it a realistic dream? Oh god no, but it's a dream none the less.

One helluva dream Fella. Replace ND w Duke and I'd be good with a 6-7 place annual finish, with a flash into the top5 every few years - would be one heck of a league. Wow.

I think you underestimate what ND in the conference brings the last 6 years of the conference I'd argue they were a better team than Creighton.

What would ND bring? they have one of the largest followings in all of college sports, plus with them they add a major historical rival to MU and Depaul (in a conference severly lacking rivalries). Duke is great but they have no significant history with any of the BE schools, don't get me wrong I'd love to have them, but realistically it doesn't make sense to throw out ND and bring in Duke of all the various throw out options in the conference.

[ChelseaFriar]

The two teams taking a step back will be Butler (with the loses of Jones & Dunham) & Providence who will lose Dunn. Both however have the talent to compete unless Providence loses Bentil also.
DePaul will be DePaul

Going back to my previous post in this thread, PC was predicted to take a step back this season (lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers and Chukwu) and last season (lost Cotton and Fortune) as well. He made the NCAA last year and is currently ranked 14th in the country.

As a battered Friar fan I do agree with you. However, Cooley has proven all of the critics wrong each year. If everyone returns next season, PC will only have a question mark at one position. Unfortunately, that position will be PG. But I'll happily roll with Bentil and Bullock as juniors in the frontcourt.

[BigmanU]

The two teams taking a step back will be Butler (with the loses of Jones & Dunham) & Providence who will lose Dunn. Both however have the talent to compete unless Providence loses Bentil also.
DePaul will be DePaul

Going back to my previous post in this thread, PC was predicted to take a step back this season (lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers and Chukwu) and last season (lost Cotton and Fortune) as well. He made the NCAA last year and is currently ranked 14th in the country.

As a battered Friar fan I do agree with you. However, Cooley has proven all of the critics wrong each year. If everyone returns next season, PC will only have a question mark at one position. Unfortunately, that position will be PG. But I'll happily roll with Bentil and Bullock as juniors in the frontcourt.

I actually agree with you. I was actually concerned if Bentil leaves also. With him and Bullock they will be a NCAA bid team as long as Cooley steers the ship.

[MUBoxer]

The two teams taking a step back will be Butler (with the loses of Jones & Dunham) & Providence who will lose Dunn. Both however have the talent to compete unless Providence loses Bentil also.
DePaul will be DePaul

Going back to my previous post in this thread, PC was predicted to take a step back this season (lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers and Chukwu) and last season (lost Cotton and Fortune) as well. He made the NCAA last year and is currently ranked 14th in the country.

As a battered Friar fan I do agree with you. However, Cooley has proven all of the critics wrong each year. If everyone returns next season, PC will only have a question mark at one position. Unfortunately, that position will be PG. But I'll happily roll with Bentil and Bullock as juniors in the frontcourt.

PG is pretty darn important, MU's 2013-14 team was unbelievably experienced and talented in the front court and yet a crappy, unexperienced PG ruined us. And the "proven all of the critics wrong each year" sounds eerily familiar to something we used to say. But wish yall the best!

[ChelseaFriar]

The two teams taking a step back will be Butler (with the loses of Jones & Dunham) & Providence who will lose Dunn. Both however have the talent to compete unless Providence loses Bentil also.
DePaul will be DePaul

Going back to my previous post in this thread, PC was predicted to take a step back this season (lost Henton, Harris, Derosiers and Chukwu) and last season (lost Cotton and Fortune) as well. He made the NCAA last year and is currently ranked 14th in the country.

As a battered Friar fan I do agree with you. However, Cooley has proven all of the critics wrong each year. If everyone returns next season, PC will only have a question mark at one position. Unfortunately, that position will be PG. But I'll happily roll with Bentil and Bullock as juniors in the frontcourt.

PG is pretty darn important, MU's 2013-14 team was unbelievably experienced and talented in the front court and yet a crappy, unexperienced PG ruined us. And the "proven all of the critics wrong each year" sounds eerily familiar to something we used to say. But wish yall the best!

That's why I said "Unfortunately, that position will be PG". That position could derail PC next year but time will tell.

Did you have that feeling with MU regarding having to prove it each year? I didn't realize that.

[MUBoxer]

That's why I said "Unfortunately, that position will be PG". That position could derail PC next year but time will tell.

Did you have that feeling with MU regarding having to prove it each year? I didn't realize that.

Oh yes we certainly did.

2013: Coaches predicted 7th, tied for 1st
2012: Coaches predicted 6th, take 2nd
2011: Coaches predicted 9th, weird year with a bunch of ties so kinda hard to actually say but 6th best big east record, tied for 9th place though.
2010: Coaches predicted 12th, took 5th.

So we can certainly relate to that disrespected mentality!

[R Jay]

My dream? The B1G and SEC gut the ACC and the remnants of the ACC and Big XII join up but not all members. BC and Cuse not wanting to be in the AAC decide to drop FB to FBS and return to the Big East where they belong. UConn decides the same and comes home as well. Notre Dame being forever FB independent decides to rejoin their fellow catholic schools for all sports except FB.

Is it a realistic dream? Oh god no, but it's a dream none the less.

One helluva dream Fella. Replace ND w Duke and I'd be good with a 6-7 place annual finish, with a flash into the top5 every few years - would be one heck of a league. Wow.

I think you underestimate what ND in the conference brings the last 6 years of the conference I'd argue they were a better team than Creighton.

What would ND bring? they have one of the largest followings in all of college sports, plus with them they add a major historical rival to MU and Depaul (in a conference severly lacking rivalries). Duke is great but they have no significant history with any of the BE schools, don't get me wrong I'd love to have them, but realistically it doesn't make sense to throw out ND and bring in Duke of all the various throw out options in the conference.

Back on the Creighton hate bandwagon are we? It gets a bit tired. We all know that you (and Edrick) don't think we belong.
Creighton has only been in the Big East for two years - one of them being a rebuilding year - after being in a mid-major conference from 1977-2013. Notre Dame was in the Big East for more than 15 years. Of course they look better on paper than us (Though ND surprisingly only has one S16 and has only 2 more NCAA appearances in the last 10 years than us).
I do agree with the ND-Duke argument you make.

[GumbyDamnit!]

CU belongs. Period. Great fans. Committed to their hoops. They'll be a relevant program in this league for a long time.