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Postby micgoG'town » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:02 am

The way the last few minutes went is frustrating (especially for PC fans), but certainly a great showing this week. ......New England losing probably making it even worse for some.
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Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:06 am

Jet915 wrote:Damn, 4 fouls on Dunn. PC still leading by 3 with 8 minutes to go...

Dunn has to learn to stay out of foul trouble. The 4th foul was just stupid. 4 straight games now with 4 fouls.
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Postby marquette » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:07 am

PC hung tough for the whole game but just didn't quite have enough in the tank to finish 'em off. Still a great game PC. Hold your heads high.
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Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:12 am

this game is one reason why I don't totally agree with going with the advanced metrics. PC is going to get HURT by the final score of this game. MSU was supposed to win by 6. Instead they won by 13.
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Postby billyjack » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:28 am

Great competitive game. The Friars looked good and we were in a good position to win. All in all, a great trip out west. We'll be in hoops heaven watching Kris Dunn all year.
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Postby XUFan09 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:00 am

stever20 wrote:this game is one reason why I don't totally agree with going with the advanced metrics. PC is going to get HURT by the final score of this game. MSU was supposed to win by 6. Instead they won by 13.


Theoretically, those things balance out over the course of a 30+ game season.
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Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:07 am

XUFan09 wrote:
stever20 wrote:this game is one reason why I don't totally agree with going with the advanced metrics. PC is going to get HURT by the final score of this game. MSU was supposed to win by 6. Instead they won by 13.


Theoretically, those things balance out over the course of a 30+ game season.


true. but like there's no reason why PC should drop by 2 slots based off of tonights game. that's just stupid IMO.
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Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:25 am

stever20 wrote:this game is one reason why I don't totally agree with going with the advanced metrics. PC is going to get HURT by the final score of this game. MSU was supposed to win by 6. Instead they won by 13.


Translation: "Let me make sure the PC fans feel even worse about this loss by throwing a final little jab in there."

Reality: PC is not HURT in the least by any game this weekend. Losing to Mich St. on a neutral floor will probably end up as a net RPI increase not decrease.
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Postby ohiohsbball » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:52 am

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ohiohsbball wrote:I will admit I was pulling slightly for Dayton since so much of my family went there, but man Xavier is really good. I only saw the second half and was really impressed. The scary part is Dayton will be really good too. Villanova may have competition at the top.


You've always come across as a Dayton fan to me, now I'm curious who your team is.

X is a legit top 15 team, by the eye test I think they're top 10. I think Dayton has been overrated by some A10 fans, don't think that beat down of Alabama was too impressive. UD still pretty good.


I root for Dayton because they are a local team to me and a lot of my family has gone to Dayton, but I wouldn't say I'm a "fan" of Dayton. I'm such a homer for local teams it is ridiculous. My "team" is Ohio State (man, are they bad this year). I joined this board when all of the conference expansion talk was taking place because to be honest, it was all fascinating to me. I still read posts on here because, for the most part, I really enjoy a lot of the conversations and I am just a college basketball junkie.

But, yes, Dayton and Xavier are both really good this year which makes the game last night even more impressive for X.
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Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:15 am

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
stever20 wrote:this game is one reason why I don't totally agree with going with the advanced metrics. PC is going to get HURT by the final score of this game. MSU was supposed to win by 6. Instead they won by 13.


Translation: "Let me make sure the PC fans feel even worse about this loss by throwing a final little jab in there."

Reality: PC is not HURT in the least by any game this weekend. Losing to Mich St. on a neutral floor will probably end up as a net RPI increase not decrease.


In Ken Pom, PC WAS HURT by the Michigan St game. they dropped from 46 to 48. That's insane. In advanced metrics, if you don't perform like they think you should, you get really dinged.
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