Can we all stop looking into our crystal balls for 5 minutes

[TheHall]

I think this year matters to us a lot more than you are making it out to be. A year where we got the bids that Lunardi was saying the other day- would not be good for us as our first one. Especially with UConn, Louisville, Cuse getting very high seeds. We have to perform on the floor, or eventually the recruiting will start to dry up some.

There is nothing happening out there that supports this claim- nothing. It seems you are very motivated to keep identifying worse case scenarios for the BE, regardless of how likely they are. If anything signs are that the BE's recruiting has gone up because of losing teams, not in spite of.

Btw, where have I said how little (or much) this season matters. How much this season matters doesn't change the current state of the conference. I was just handicapping the reality of the state of the BE in its first year, just like Westroads did.

[BillikensWin]

This season is important.

But so is the next one, and the one after that. The BE is putting themselves in position to succeed. I am pretty sure Fox didn't offer them a 1 year contract.

[stever20]

I think this year matters to us a lot more than you are making it out to be. A year where we got the bids that Lunardi was saying the other day- would not be good for us as our first one. Especially with UConn, Louisville, Cuse getting very high seeds. We have to perform on the floor, or eventually the recruiting will start to dry up some.

There is nothing happening out there that supports this claim- nothing. It seems you are very motivated to keep identifying worse case scenarios for the BE, regardless of how likely they are. If anything signs are that the BE's recruiting has gone up because of losing teams, not in spite of.

Btw, where have I said how little (or much) this season matters. How much this season matters doesn't change the current state of the conference. I was just handicapping the reality of the state of the BE in its first year, just like Westroads did.

If we had 2-3 years performing like this, you don't think our status would change? That's the major concern right now. We have to do better than we've done so far OOC. To say like Westwood- It's a going to be a great season regardless of OOC- is frankly a joke. OOC is where you are compared to the other conferences. Eventually we have to beat other conferences or our perception will go down. That's just the cold facts.

[TheHall]

If we had 2-3 years performing like this, you don't think our status would change? That's the major concern right now. We have to do better than we've done so far OOC. To say like Westwood- It's a going to be a great season regardless of OOC- is frankly a joke. OOC is where you are compared to the other conferences. Eventually we have to beat other conferences or our perception will go down. That's just the cold facts.

Speak for yourself and your hoyas.

The conference just signed a $500M deal with Fox, Our schools are all over the tv, we are recruiting our a$$es off, and we don't play in a league with Tulane, this will be a fantastic year regardless.

[stever20]

If we had 2-3 years performing like this, you don't think our status would change? That's the major concern right now. We have to do better than we've done so far OOC. To say like Westwood- It's a going to be a great season regardless of OOC- is frankly a joke. OOC is where you are compared to the other conferences. Eventually we have to beat other conferences or our perception will go down. That's just the cold facts.

Speak for yourself and your hoyas.

The conference just signed a $500M deal with Fox, Our schools are all over the tv, we are recruiting our a$$es off, and we don't play in a league with Tulane, this will be a fantastic year regardless.

Spoken like a true Seton Hall fan. Most BE fans are used to being in a top 2 conference, not just content to be in the top 5.

[ArmyVet]

This conference is built for the long term. We're recruiting well and we have a solid lineup of teams. As for this year, the league lost Louisville and Syracuse, GT and Marq are down. That's the story. Meanwhile, Nova is carrying the banner for us and everybody else is trying to find where they fit in. It's going to be a great season regardless of OOC.

THIS 100%

[TheHall]

If we had 2-3 years performing like this, you don't think our status would change? That's the major concern right now. We have to do better than we've done so far OOC. To say like Westwood- It's a going to be a great season regardless of OOC- is frankly a joke. OOC is where you are compared to the other conferences. Eventually we have to beat other conferences or our perception will go down. That's just the cold facts.

Speak for yourself and your hoyas.

The conference just signed a $500M deal with Fox, Our schools are all over the tv, we are recruiting our a$$es off, and we don't play in a league with Tulane, this will be a fantastic year regardless.

Spoken like a true Seton Hall fan. Most BE fans are used to being in a top 2 conference, not just content to be in the top 5.

How could finishing in the top two be the EXPECTATION when we started the year off with one ranked team lol...you're credibility is zero. Btw, you've spent the last few months stridently comparing the BE to the A10, MWC, etc....you've actually just dropped down to negative credibility.

[stever20]

2 things...
I've said constantly that we needed to have a good year this year. Most C7 fans are used to being in a top 2 conference. That's the truth.

I said and continue to say that the A10 and MWC are just as much of a major conference as the SEC. The computers bare it out, especially with the A10. We are going to be in direct competition with the A10 getting teams in. That is what it is.

[TheHall]

2 things...
I've said constantly that we needed to have a good year this year. Most C7 fans are used to being in a top 2 conference. That's the truth.

I said and continue to say that the A10 and MWC are just as much of a major conference as the SEC. The computers bare it out, especially with the A10. We are going to be in direct competition with the A10 getting teams in. That is what it is.

ALL C7 fans know that we are not in the OBE anymore too.

Steve the real question is how did we know we were in the top two conferences? No matter how much you try to spin it that question was never answered by OOC play in Nov/Dec, not for the BE not for any conference. It's hasn't been by conference play either. Conference strength has always been determined by NCAAT performance- not even bids, but performance. The BE wasn't the best conference simply because we had the best OOC record in Nov/Dec or even b/c we got 8,9, 10 bids. We were the best because our 8th place team won the NCAAT or for 5 years or so we sent different teams to the Final Four, and obviously we won it all a couple of times. So if you really are focusing on determining the top conference then you are way to early.

If the BE gets four bids this year but 2 teams make it to the Final Four (which is still a legit possibility regardless of what doom & gloom scenario you come up with) we will be considered a top 2 conference. On the other hand if we had an excellent OOC regular season record, got 6 bids, but flamed out before the elite eight we would not be considered a top 2 league.

Every game matters but the sorting of best to worst conference happens in March & April not now.

[stever20]

OOC play matters in it gets you the seeds in the tournament and gets you teams in the tournament. Seeds no matter what you want to say matter a lot. There is a huge difference between a 5 seed and a 7 seed. Like now- Nova was projected as a 4 seed. If they had lost vs Kansas, they would be like a 6 seed. That matters. Right now, we'd have 2 8 and 9 seeds- and all that matters is you see the #1 seed in the 2nd game. That's not good. Play in game gets you a test 1st and then 5 and 4 seeds in the next 2 games. The tourney does matter- but OOC sets up the tourney a lot.