Fri 11/29 BE Game Thread (6 Games)

[JOPO]

This whole concept of tournament teams based on right now is the most stupid thing I've heard in awhile I'm going to throw that out there now. Because A) You don't have any conference play yet let alone the conference tournament, think if Depaul won it. B) Still huge games to be played out of conference I know Marquette still has San Diego St, New Mexico (both pretty much home games for those teams) and @Wisconsin. C) RPI is always changing and if a team like Southern wins their conference like theyre supposed to after this rough start then MU's RPI jumps same situation with other teams.

Talking about the tournament teams now is like running around saying the sky is falling.

To me, OOC is about getting the good wins, but also picking up wins. We need whoever finishes 9-9 to have gone 11-2 or better OOC. 10-3 or even worse 9-4 or 8-5 just won't cut it. The committee has shown more and more they are looking for a certain # of wins to get in. Used to be a 18-13 team would get in, but those days seem to have passed.

An 18-13 team doesn't belong in the tournament, in the great big east it was 20 wins, now probably 21 or 22 to get in. But they fact is you aren't looking at strength of schedule or anything like that and not adjusting for how RPI can change throughout the year. That's why I'm saying it's stupid to be saying who'd get in after 5, 6, or 7 games. Remember South Florida in 2011-2012? 6 losses coming into conference play and they won 12 games in conference play and made the tournament.

In the true Big East (the original 7 plus Pitt and 'Nova), 18 wins was about as good a guarantee as any that you were making the Big Dance. Would be great if we could return to that(not saying it will or could, just that it would be nice).

[stever20]

If by some miracle PC gets past UMass or UK and SJ gets past Cuse we will be cooking with fire

Why in the world would it take a miracle for Providence to get by UMAss?

Seriously, PC should have absolutely no problem with UMass!

Did you not watch UMass last weekend? They throttled New Mexico. To act like PC will have no problem with them is rather foolish.

[stever20]

In the true Big East (the original 7 plus Pitt and 'Nova), 18 wins was about as good a guarantee as any that you were making the Big Dance. Would be great if we could return to that(not saying it will or could, just that it would be nice).

Well for one- back then most teams only played about 29 games. 18-11 is a lot different than 18-14 or something along those lines. Also, there's a LOT more depth now than before. not just in the power conferences, but also A10, MWC, MVC are way stronger than they were back then.

[Bill Marsh]

Why in the world would it take a miracle for Providence to get by UMAss?

Seriously, PC should have absolutely no problem with UMass!

Did you not watch UMass last weekend? They throttled New Mexico. To act like PC will have no problem with them is rather foolish.

About as foolish as saying it would take a miracle for PC to win the game.

[MUBoxer]

In the true Big East (the original 7 plus Pitt and 'Nova), 18 wins was about as good a guarantee as any that you were making the Big Dance. Would be great if we could return to that(not saying it will or could, just that it would be nice).

Well for one- back then most teams only played about 29 games. 18-11 is a lot different than 18-14 or something along those lines. Also, there's a LOT more depth now than before. not just in the power conferences, but also A10, MWC, MVC are way stronger than they were back then.

I agree with your overall point but the MVC definitely doesn't belong in the same breath as the MWC or A10.

[stever20]

In the true Big East (the original 7 plus Pitt and 'Nova), 18 wins was about as good a guarantee as any that you were making the Big Dance. Would be great if we could return to that(not saying it will or could, just that it would be nice).

Well for one- back then most teams only played about 29 games. 18-11 is a lot different than 18-14 or something along those lines. Also, there's a LOT more depth now than before. not just in the power conferences, but also A10, MWC, MVC are way stronger than they were back then.

I agree with your overall point but the MVC definitely doesn't belong in the same breath as the MWC or A10.

a few teams in MVC- but then also the WCC...