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Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:19 am

Gtmo's media empire kind of took over the original preview thread.

PC comes in at 46 and 5th in the BE, projected as an NCAA team:
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18745


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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby DudeAnon » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:45 pm

Definitely one of the weakest years of the NBE.
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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby adoraz » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:53 pm

DudeAnon wrote:Definitely one of the weakest years of the NBE.


We're always underestimated pre-season though. I think this is about average in terms of how we end up performing (5 teams in, a couple on the bubble, and likely 2-3 top 25 teams with 1 of them being a #1/#2 seed).

What's nice about this projection is that all 11 teams are within the top 100. That means any of the lower half 11 teams could slightly overperform and the make the Dance. Basically what happened last year where 9/10 teams (maybe 10/11 including UConn?) had NCAA Tournament caliber resumes by conference play. I'm definitely not expecting a repeat of that because it's insanely hard to do (we were the #1 conference in NET), but I think we'll get 5/6 in and that'd be a pretty standard year for us. 2021 and 2022 is where things should get really interesting with our recruiting class.
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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Omaha1 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:57 pm

DudeAnon wrote:Definitely one of the weakest years of the NBE.

Perhaps. We’ll see. But it does make last year sting even more knowing the ncaa seeds the league might have had.
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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:48 am

Huskies come in 40th in top 144, 4th in BE.
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18753


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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:31 am

Wizard of Westroads wrote:
Huskies come in 40th in top 144, 4th in BE.

Last year, UConn was not listed in CSM’s Top 144 teams of 2019-20, but finished the season with a Final NET Ranking of #60.

#6 Villanova Wildcats (#1 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – October 31, 2019

#19 Seton Hall Pirates(#2 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – October 18, 2019

#23 Xavier Musketeers (#3 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – October 14, 2019

#27 Marquette Golden Eagles (#4 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – October 10, 2019

#33 Creighton Bluejays (#5 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – October 14, 2019

#47 Georgetown Hoyas (#6 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – September 20, 2019

#58 Providence Friars (#7 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – September 9, 2019

#77 Butler Bulldogs (#8 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – August 21, 2019

#110 St. John’s Red Storm (#9 in Big East) – College Sports Madness 2019-20 Top 144 Previews – July 18, 2019

Not in CSM’s Top 144: DePaul (#10 in Big East)
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FINAL NCAA NITTY-GRITTY REPORT - SELECTION SUNDAY 2020 (through games of March 12, 2020) – NCAA.org
NET Ranking • Team • (W-L) • SOS Ranking • Non-conference SOS Ranking • (Record vs. Quad 1 and Quad 2 Teams)

11 • Creighton • (23-7) • (-) • 23 • 155 • (15-7)
13 • Villanova • (24-7) • 3 • 36 • (16-7)
15 • Seton Hall • (21-9) • 4 • 78 • (15-9)
19 • Butler • (22-9) • 54 • 228 • (15-9)
26 • Marquette • (18-12) • 5 • 62 • (11-12)
37 • Providence • (19-12) • 9 • 129 • (12-8)

47 • Xavier • (19-13) • 15 • 71 • (10-13)
60 • UConn • (19-12) • 80 • 171 • (5-10)
62 • St. John's • (17-15) • 46 • 202 • (7-14)
65 • Georgetown • (15-17) • 10 • 80 • (8-16)
86 • DePaul • (15-16) • 73 • 301 • (7-15)

CSM’s Predicted Final Ranking • Team • Final NET Ranking • DIFFERENCE: Final NET Ranking Final Ranking - CSM’s Predicted Final Ranking

#6 • Villanova Wildcats • #137 places worse than CSM’s prediction
#19 • Seton Hall Pirates • #15 4 places better than CSM’s prediction
#23 • Xavier Musketeers • #4724 places worse than CSM’s prediction
#27 • Marquette Golden Eagles • #261 place better than CSM’s prediction
#33 • Creighton Bluejays • #267 places better than CSM’s prediction
#47 • Georgetown Hoyas • #6518 places worse than CSM’s prediction

#58 • Providence Friars • #3721 places better than CSM’s prediction
#77 • Butler Bulldogs • #1958 places better than CSM’s prediction
#110 • St. John’s Red Storm • #6248 places better than CSM’s prediction
Not in CSM’s Top 144: UConn • #60 • at least 84 places better than CSM’s unspecified prediction
Not in CSM’s Top 144: DePaul • #86at least 58 places better than CSM’s unspecified prediction

FINAL BRACKET MATRIX - SELECTION SUNDAY 2020
Final 2020 Bracket Matrix – Averages of 97 Final Brackets

Seed No. • Team • Conference • Average Seed No.

2 • Villanova • Big East • 2.21
2 • Creighton • Big East • 2.31
3 • Seton Hall • Big East • 3.30
5 • Butler • Big East • 4.90
8 • Providence • Big East • 8.14
9 • Marquette • Big East • 8.87
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NCAA Tournament – Quantitative Reference Thread – Post #31
On October 1, 2020 Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:
Average number of Big East teams in AP Top 25 Poll = (17 teams/7 years) = 2.4 teams per year.
Average number of Big East teams in the NCAA Tournament = (38 teams/7 years) = 5.4 teams per year.

Bottom Line: The ten-team averages of 2.4 Big East teams in AP Top 25 Poll per year and 5.4 Big East teams in the NCAA Tournament per year have become the de facto benchmarks for the 10-team Big East Conference.

Big East Benchmarks for the 2020-21 Season and Beyond:

If UConn is assumed to be a statistically average Big East team, the new benchmarks for the 11-team conference will be as follows:

Average number of Big East teams in the AP Top 25 Poll = (11/10)(17 teams/7 years) = 2.67 teams per year.

Average number of Big East teams in the NCAA Tournament = (11/10)(38 teams/7 years) = 5.97 teams per year.
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adoraz wrote:
We're always underestimated pre-season though.

No – you’re not.

CSM correctly predicted that six Big East teams would be invited to the 2019-20 NCAA Tournament.

CSM is again predicting that six Big East teams will be invited to the 2020-21 NCAA Tournament. See Benchmarks above.
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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:09 am

Seton Hall at 37 and 3rd in the BE:
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18758

In all, this may not be a group that can win another Big East title, but they can continue their streak of NCAA Tournament appearances and at least give themselves an opportunity to make the weekend.


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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:19 am

Okay so...two Big East teams in the top 35 lol. I'll take the over please.
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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:50 pm

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Re: Another 2020-21 Preview Thread

Postby Wizard of Westroads » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:39 am

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18798
Bluejays at 19 and 2nd in BE.

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