The "Wait, What?" Thread

[scoscox]

hero, my sweet, naive, summer child. you underestimate the hatred of the UD faithful

and funny that FF came to the defense of St. Mary's seeing as they're one of dayton's marquee wins

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

FF, in the event Xavier was ever sent to Dayton, would the Flyer faithful cash in and sell their tickets to Xavier fans for a nice profit, or would they keep them so that they could root for Xavier's opponent?

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[handdownmandown]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

#potential #P6 #markets #VCUisAbetterPROGRAMthanUCONN #footballDRIVEStheBUS #PRIVATESareSMALLtime #ARESCOlisaGOD

[paulxu]

FF, in the event Xavier was ever sent to Dayton, would the Flyer faithful cash in and sell their tickets to Xavier fans for a nice profit, or would they keep them so that they could root for Xavier's opponent?

The definition of a true Flyer fan is one who takes more joy in a Xavier loss, than a Dayton win.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Dan Hurley and the UConn AAC Farewell Tour was rockin' and rollin' this week. Big upset wins over Tulsa and Cincinnati, with upcoming dates with SMU, Memphis and Temple on the horizon.



AAC currently has three teams in latest USA Today Bracketology, none higher than an 8-seed. Big East has six bids (#2, #4, #4, #6, #6, #9). Not bad. Not bad at all.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2020/02/10/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-march-madness-bubble-watch-acc-duke-louisville/4711426002/

[herodotus]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

Those "tweener " leagues like the AAC, and A10 are where the bid thieves come from. I call them "tweeners" because they're not good enough to be considered major conferences, but they're clearly a step above the mid major rabble. True bid thieves rarely come from the rabble, because only infrequently do they have a team like Buffalo the last few years, that is good enough to snag an at large bid if they falter in their conference tourney. On the flip side, the P6 rarely produces a true bid thief, because the road for a team like this year's St. John's, is just too daunting for them to make it all the way through. Now occasionally, a team like Georgetown that is on the outside looking in, will get hot and reach the final, or maybe even win, but they won't be a true bid thief, because they will have risen to the point where they'd deserve an at large bid. A bid thief occurs only when a league has at least one team worthy of an at large bid, but their conference tournament is won by a team that wouldn't get an at large bid. Those 3-4 tweener leagues are where this occurs, because they usually have one or two at large quality teams, but are not deep enough to make it impossible for the thief to make it through if the leader falls. With only 1 or 2 good teams in the league, it only takes 1 or 2 upsets to open the door. You'd need 7 or 8 good teams to lose in the BE for the Johnnies to steal a bid. Last year was one of the few seasons where I thought the BE could actually produce a bid thief. The ACC is in this rare territory this year.

Houston, Dayton, and San Diego St. are all very good teams that will hear their names called in March, but it's not to hard to imagine any of them stumbling, and a UConn, Duquesne, or Colorado St., none of whom are close to the bubble, sneaking in, as the 4-5 teams in those leagues below the leaders are pretty much the same. If Seton Hall stumbles, Villanova, CU, and Butler will be standing there waiting to send the potential thief packing. If we want to keep those spots open for a 6th, and maybe 7th BE team, root for Houston, Dayton, SDSU, and Gonzaga to keep winning.

[stever20]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

Those "tweener " leagues like the AAC, and A10 are where the bid thieves come from. I call them "tweeners" because they're not good enough to be considered major conferences, but they're clearly a step above the mid major rabble. True bid thieves rarely come from the rabble, because only infrequently do they have a team like Buffalo the last few years, that is good enough to snag an at large bid if they falter in their conference tourney. On the flip side, the P6 rarely produces a true bid thief, because the road for a team like this year's St. John's, is just too daunting for them to make it all the way through. Now occasionally, a team like Georgetown that is on the outside looking in, will get hot and reach the final, or maybe even win, but they won't be a true bid thief, because they will have risen to the point where they'd deserve an at large bid. A bid thief occurs only when a league has at least one team worthy of an at large bid, but their conference tournament is won by a team that wouldn't get an at large bid. Those 3-4 tweener leagues are where this occurs, because they usually have one or two at large quality teams, but are not deep enough to make it impossible for the thief to make it through if the leader falls. With only 1 or 2 good teams in the league, it only takes 1 or 2 upsets to open the door. You'd need 7 or 8 good teams to lose in the BE for the Johnnies to steal a bid. Last year was one of the few seasons where I thought the BE could actually produce a bid thief. The ACC is in this rare territory this year.

Houston, Dayton, and San Diego St. are all very good teams that will hear their names called in March, but it's not to hard to imagine any of them stumbling, and a UConn, Duquesne, or Colorado St., none of whom are close to the bubble, sneaking in, as the 4-5 teams in those leagues below the leaders are pretty much the same. If Seton Hall stumbles, Villanova, CU, and Butler will be standing there waiting to send the potential thief packing. If we want to keep those spots open for a 6th, and maybe 7th BE team, root for Houston, Dayton, SDSU, and Gonzaga to keep winning.

Really it's simple math.... If BE team gets up to 18 D1 wins this year, they're in the tourney. If not, they aren't. Really the other conferences will have little/nothing to do with it at all...

[Husky_U]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

Those "tweener " leagues like the AAC, and A10 are where the bid thieves come from. I call them "tweeners" because they're not good enough to be considered major conferences, but they're clearly a step above the mid major rabble. True bid thieves rarely come from the rabble, because only infrequently do they have a team like Buffalo the last few years, that is good enough to snag an at large bid if they falter in their conference tourney. On the flip side, the P6 rarely produces a true bid thief, because the road for a team like this year's St. John's, is just too daunting for them to make it all the way through. Now occasionally, a team like Georgetown that is on the outside looking in, will get hot and reach the final, or maybe even win, but they won't be a true bid thief, because they will have risen to the point where they'd deserve an at large bid. A bid thief occurs only when a league has at least one team worthy of an at large bid, but their conference tournament is won by a team that wouldn't get an at large bid. Those 3-4 tweener leagues are where this occurs, because they usually have one or two at large quality teams, but are not deep enough to make it impossible for the thief to make it through if the leader falls. With only 1 or 2 good teams in the league, it only takes 1 or 2 upsets to open the door. You'd need 7 or 8 good teams to lose in the BE for the Johnnies to steal a bid. Last year was one of the few seasons where I thought the BE could actually produce a bid thief. The ACC is in this rare territory this year.

Houston, Dayton, and San Diego St. are all very good teams that will hear their names called in March, but it's not to hard to imagine any of them stumbling, and a UConn, Duquesne, or Colorado St., none of whom are close to the bubble, sneaking in, as the 4-5 teams in those leagues below the leaders are pretty much the same. If Seton Hall stumbles, Villanova, CU, and Butler will be standing there waiting to send the potential thief packing. If we want to keep those spots open for a 6th, and maybe 7th BE team, root for Houston, Dayton, SDSU, and Gonzaga to keep winning.

Root for Houston/Cincy/Wichita/Memphis to lose as much as possible this month then for UCONN to win the auto-bid and be the lone AAC participant in the NCAA tourney!

[herodotus]

Don’t look now but one of the things going on over on the AAC board is the discussion about whether the ACK is a one bid league should Houston win the league tourney.

The non-Stever-spun take is it very well could be with a couple bad breaks.

Those "tweener " leagues like the AAC, and A10 are where the bid thieves come from. I call them "tweeners" because they're not good enough to be considered major conferences, but they're clearly a step above the mid major rabble. True bid thieves rarely come from the rabble, because only infrequently do they have a team like Buffalo the last few years, that is good enough to snag an at large bid if they falter in their conference tourney. On the flip side, the P6 rarely produces a true bid thief, because the road for a team like this year's St. John's, is just too daunting for them to make it all the way through. Now occasionally, a team like Georgetown that is on the outside looking in, will get hot and reach the final, or maybe even win, but they won't be a true bid thief, because they will have risen to the point where they'd deserve an at large bid. A bid thief occurs only when a league has at least one team worthy of an at large bid, but their conference tournament is won by a team that wouldn't get an at large bid. Those 3-4 tweener leagues are where this occurs, because they usually have one or two at large quality teams, but are not deep enough to make it impossible for the thief to make it through if the leader falls. With only 1 or 2 good teams in the league, it only takes 1 or 2 upsets to open the door. You'd need 7 or 8 good teams to lose in the BE for the Johnnies to steal a bid. Last year was one of the few seasons where I thought the BE could actually produce a bid thief. The ACC is in this rare territory this year.

Houston, Dayton, and San Diego St. are all very good teams that will hear their names called in March, but it's not to hard to imagine any of them stumbling, and a UConn, Duquesne, or Colorado St., none of whom are close to the bubble, sneaking in, as the 4-5 teams in those leagues below the leaders are pretty much the same. If Seton Hall stumbles, Villanova, CU, and Butler will be standing there waiting to send the potential thief packing. If we want to keep those spots open for a 6th, and maybe 7th BE team, root for Houston, Dayton, SDSU, and Gonzaga to keep winning.

Root for Houston/Cincy/Wichita/Memphis to lose as much as possible this month then for UCONN to win the auto-bid and be the lone AAC participant in the NCAA tourney!

I could live with that, although Houston would probably have to fall pretty hard not to get in. That said, if it came down to UConn stealing a bid in a scenario where Houston is in, if Georgetown or PC were on the bubble, I'd be rooting against UConn. UConn is coming back, but until they actually get here, in any scenario where them doing well might hurt a BE team, including any NCAA, or NIT game, I'm rooting for the current BE team to come out on top. Not sure how my personal pecking order will go once they get here. I love the Cats being the flagship. This year is bad enough, we're not looking for permanent challengers.