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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby kayako » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:25 pm

thunderbird wrote:Seton Hall/Butler saw a benefit playing Saint Louis. No BE schools see a benefit playing Dayton. It's that simple.


Xavier's probably just ignoring them. But I can see a H&H series happening with a BE team if AG can keep them dominating A10 for a good stretch. Oh wait nvm, we're going to 20 conference games and these kind of agreements are much less likely going forward.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby Xudash » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:31 am

kayako wrote:
thunderbird wrote:Seton Hall/Butler saw a benefit playing Saint Louis. No BE schools see a benefit playing Dayton. It's that simple.


Xavier's probably just ignoring them. But I can see a H&H series happening with a BE team if AG can keep them dominating A10 for a good stretch. Oh wait nvm, we're going to 20 conference games and these kind of agreements are much less likely going forward.


Drop “probably” and you nailed it.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby kayako » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:41 am

Xudash wrote:Drop “probably” and you nailed it.


As a college bb fan, I'd like to see Ohio's "crossroads classic". As a BE fan, meh whatevers.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby Xudash » Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:22 pm

kayako wrote:
Xudash wrote:Drop “probably” and you nailed it.


As a college bb fan, I'd like to see Ohio's "crossroads classic". As a BE fan, meh whatevers.


Yeah, I get the conceptual appeal of the idea, but Ohio State, in particular, would never agree to it.

Besides, Indiana can throw 4 legitimate major conference teams at that format. Ohio only has two major teams: Ohio State and Xavier. It also would screw up the Crosstown Shootout with UC. VD is where it belongs: with LossSalle and St. Joe’s.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby kayako » Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:39 pm

Xudash wrote:It also would screw up the Crosstown Shootout with UC. VD is where it belongs: with LossSalle and St. Joe’s.


Unless I am missing something, Indiana and Purdue don't play each other in the classic either. So in this hypothetical event, Xavier would only end up playing OSU & Dayton. And I thought it was Holtmann that brought it up.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby Xudash » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:19 pm

kayako wrote:
Xudash wrote:It also would screw up the Crosstown Shootout with UC. VD is where it belongs: with LossSalle and St. Joe’s.


Unless I am missing something, Indiana and Purdue don't play each other in the classic either. So in this hypothetical event, Xavier would only end up playing OSU & Dayton. And I thought it was Holtmann that brought it up.


Well, as far as the event itself is concerned, I would think anyone packaging it would want to involve four major teams, regardless of who is playing who. Otherwise, Xavier will not play Dayton. That is over.

I do recall Holtman mentioning something to that effect, but their A.D. would shut it down in two seconds, most likely.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby SamElliott » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:03 pm

kayako wrote:
Xudash wrote:Drop “probably” and you nailed it.


As a college bb fan, I'd like to see Ohio's "crossroads classic". As a BE fan, meh whatevers.


- As a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament, has it hit anyone yet that Dayton was always the better choice to be the NBE's 11th team?
- Perhaps UConn could have been the 12th team?
- The Fox Sports 1 contract allowed for 2 pro-rata shares to get to 12 teams (at 4 million per year for each team.)
- That extra inventory would increase the bargaining position of the league in 6 years. It's absurd not to get that last 4 million dollar share, as it adds equity to a fledgling league.
- Dayton has showed that they don't need the NBE to get a #1 seed.
- OTOH, UConn was an opening day qualifier in the AAC tournament, as Hurley didn't win 20 games this year.
- Let's also look at having a quality team in Ohio.
- After losing to DePaul, Travis Steele was about to make his second NIT in two years.
- Having Dayton to shoulder some of the load would be good for Xavier.
- As an aside, Dayton plays FCS football, and the NBE may want to consider sponsoring football on the FCS level. (UConn, Nova, Georgetown, Butler, and Dayton would be a solid core)
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby marquette » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:27 am

Sure, if Dayton wants to go ahead and guarantee that they'll only take their tv share in years they luck into a lottery pick, then sign em up. Otherwise, they'll be there if we ever feel the need for a 12th (or more likely 13/14th). Nothing against them but they aren't a UConn level brand.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby Husky_U » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:11 am

SamElliott wrote:
kayako wrote:
Xudash wrote:Drop “probably” and you nailed it.


As a college bb fan, I'd like to see Ohio's "crossroads classic". As a BE fan, meh whatevers.


- As a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament, has it hit anyone yet that Dayton was always the better choice to be the NBE's 11th team?
- Perhaps UConn could have been the 12th team?
- The Fox Sports 1 contract allowed for 2 pro-rata shares to get to 12 teams (at 4 million per year for each team.)
- That extra inventory would increase the bargaining position of the league in 6 years. It's absurd not to get that last 4 million dollar share, as it adds equity to a fledgling league.
- Dayton has showed that they don't need the NBE to get a #1 seed.
- OTOH, UConn was an opening day qualifier in the AAC tournament, as Hurley didn't win 20 games this year.
- Let's also look at having a quality team in Ohio.
- After losing to DePaul, Travis Steele was about to make his second NIT in two years.
- Having Dayton to shoulder some of the load would be good for Xavier.
- As an aside, Dayton plays FCS football, and the NBE may want to consider sponsoring football on the FCS level. (UConn, Nova, Georgetown, Butler, and Dayton would be a solid core)


Agreed. Kick out UCONN. Replace them with Dayton. Then look to Iona as #12. Big East is better off without UCONN Basketball, just like the AAC.
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Re: UConn 2020 Discussion - The Thread By AAC Fan Sam Elliot

Postby Bogg » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:33 am

SamElliott wrote:
kayako wrote:
Xudash wrote:Drop “probably” and you nailed it.


As a college bb fan, I'd like to see Ohio's "crossroads classic". As a BE fan, meh whatevers.


- As a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament, has it hit anyone yet that Dayton was always the better choice to be the NBE's 11th team?
- Perhaps UConn could have been the 12th team?
- The Fox Sports 1 contract allowed for 2 pro-rata shares to get to 12 teams (at 4 million per year for each team.)
- That extra inventory would increase the bargaining position of the league in 6 years. It's absurd not to get that last 4 million dollar share, as it adds equity to a fledgling league.
- Dayton has showed that they don't need the NBE to get a #1 seed.
- OTOH, UConn was an opening day qualifier in the AAC tournament, as Hurley didn't win 20 games this year.
- Let's also look at having a quality team in Ohio.
- After losing to DePaul, Travis Steele was about to make his second NIT in two years.
- Having Dayton to shoulder some of the load would be good for Xavier.
- As an aside, Dayton plays FCS football, and the NBE may want to consider sponsoring football on the FCS level. (UConn, Nova, Georgetown, Butler, and Dayton would be a solid core)


You're still taking Ls around here? Dayton hasn't been out of the first round since 2014 and they missed the tournament the past two years. They're a fine program and currently they're 1a or 1b with St Louis as the on-deck school if the conference expands again, but they're not some world-beating conference validator.
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