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Re: NET rankings

Postby paulxu » Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:32 pm

stever20 wrote:This year if the Big East had 2 more teams doing even what Providence did OOC- and was doing a 12 team- 18 game schedule- The league would get 8 teams in pretty easily AND the top 4-5 teams would all be getting top 4-5 seeds just as easily...


How's that working out for your AAC teams?
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:34 pm

paulxu wrote:
stever20 wrote:This year if the Big East had 2 more teams doing even what Providence did OOC- and was doing a 12 team- 18 game schedule- The league would get 8 teams in pretty easily AND the top 4-5 teams would all be getting top 4-5 seeds just as easily...


How's that working out for your AAC teams?


It's probably going to get at least 4 teams in if not more.... With good seeds.

Sorry but the round robin does not help the Big East out at all... Going to have a lot of 8-10 to 10-8 teams. A team probably gets knocked out of the tourney as a result- and a lot of ones that do make it in will be seeded so poorly like normal that they're in impossible situations in 2nd round.
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Re: NET rankings

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:52 pm


Team Net Rankings - Through Games on December 31, 2019

68. DePaul • 9th in Big East
73. Virginia • ACC
83. North Carolina • ACC
84. Syracuse • ACC
89. Cincinnati • AAC
95. Notre Dame • ACC

101. Davidson • Atlantic 10
108. Providence • 10th in Big East

170. St. Bonaventure • Atlantic 10
171. UCLA • Pac-12
174. Northwestern • Big Ten
175. Nebraska • Big Ten
185. California • Pac-12

268. Fordham • Atlantic 10
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Re: NET rankings

Postby XUFan09 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:48 pm

stever20 wrote:
XUFan09 wrote:The expectation by NET for this matchup was probably that the Johnnie's would win by a few points, so when they lost, they dropped a few spots based on how their rating decreased. Butler's NET rating improved, but not enough to move up a spot. That makes sense because in St. John's range, there are a lot of teams clumped close together, but near the top of the rankings teams are more spread out.


I could see Butlers actual rating drop a tad but they had enough of a lead on #5 and #6 that it didn't matter. Their MOV and efficiency measures dropped of course with this game.
St John's saw their record, MOV, and efficiency measures all drop last night.


Where do you see that Butler dropped off in MOV and efficiency measures while St. John's also dropped off?
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:57 pm

XUFan09 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
XUFan09 wrote:The expectation by NET for this matchup was probably that the Johnnie's would win by a few points, so when they lost, they dropped a few spots based on how their rating decreased. Butler's NET rating improved, but not enough to move up a spot. That makes sense because in St. John's range, there are a lot of teams clumped close together, but near the top of the rankings teams are more spread out.


I could see Butlers actual rating drop a tad but they had enough of a lead on #5 and #6 that it didn't matter. Their MOV and efficiency measures dropped of course with this game.
St John's saw their record, MOV, and efficiency measures all drop last night.


Where do you see that Butler dropped off in MOV and efficiency measures while St. John's also dropped off?


Butler was winning games by more than 2 PPG. Also last night the eff for the game was 0.88-0.85. Only other win that was closer was Stanford at 1.11-1.09. The next closest- was a 0.12 difference...

St John's was the same thing- they had a positive MOV for the season obviously and also their efficiency was much larger.....
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Re: NET rankings

Postby scoscox » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:11 pm

stever20 wrote:
paulxu wrote:
stever20 wrote:This year if the Big East had 2 more teams doing even what Providence did OOC- and was doing a 12 team- 18 game schedule- The league would get 8 teams in pretty easily AND the top 4-5 teams would all be getting top 4-5 seeds just as easily...


How's that working out for your AAC teams?


It's probably going to get at least 4 teams in if not more.... With good seeds.

Sorry but the round robin does not help the Big East out at all... Going to have a lot of 8-10 to 10-8 teams. A team probably gets knocked out of the tourney as a result- and a lot of ones that do make it in will be seeded so poorly like normal that they're in impossible situations in 2nd round.


I love listening to this stupid argument every year ad nauseum.

no one gives a f---
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Re: NET rankings

Postby Westbrook#36 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:45 am

scoscox wrote:
stever20 wrote:It's probably going to get at least 4 teams in if not more.... With good seeds.

Sorry but the round robin does not help the Big East out at all... Going to have a lot of 8-10 to 10-8 teams. A team probably gets knocked out of the tourney as a result- and a lot of ones that do make it in will be seeded so poorly like normal that they're in impossible situations in 2nd round.


I love listening to this stupid argument every year ad nauseum.

no one gives a f---


Yeah gotta love stever math where 4 > 8

Every f--king year
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:53 am

Westbrook#36 wrote:
Yeah gotta love stever math where 4 > 8

Every f--king year


Big East isn't getting 8 teams....
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Re: NET rankings

Postby X-man » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:03 am

stever20 wrote:
paulxu wrote:
stever20 wrote:This year if the Big East had 2 more teams doing even what Providence did OOC- and was doing a 12 team- 18 game schedule- The league would get 8 teams in pretty easily AND the top 4-5 teams would all be getting top 4-5 seeds just as easily...


How's that working out for your AAC teams?


It's probably going to get at least 4 teams in if not more.... With good seeds.

Sorry but the round robin does not help the Big East out at all... Going to have a lot of 8-10 to 10-8 teams. A team probably gets knocked out of the tourney as a result- and a lot of ones that do make it in will be seeded so poorly like normal that they're in impossible situations in 2nd round.

Uh, your man Lunardi has the AAAAAAACCCC with two teams, with 5 and 6 seeds, in his latest projection. Give me a f***ing break.
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Re: NET rankings

Postby MullinMayhem » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:01 am

For the AAC, they only really have 2 teams that look like legit possible Sweet 16 contenders or beyond. Memphis and Wichita St. Other than them, Cincy and Houston are solid but not anything to write home about. UConn is still UConn in the AAC. Memphis started the year ranked very high only because of their #1 recruiting class even though their best win is like #35 NET NC State. They might even run the table in the AAC and get some padded record with tons of wins and a good seed in the tourney. But I can see them easily being upset right away. The AAC doesn't prepare you for the best programs in the country. It inflates records until reality hits. If Cincy, Houston, and UConn muck it up, there are scenarios where maybe only Memphis and Wichita St. get in the tourney at all. The Big East has 9 teams that have legitimate chances of getting into the tourney right now.
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