Ideas for 2020-21 Big East Schedule

[trephin]

I thought Nova was not scheduling four Big 5 games a year for a while until Wright arrived and made them a priority?

[GumbyDamnit!]

Adoraz, they won each game by 10+. The Penn game got tight but there was no risk of losing the SJU (PA) or LS games.

[adoraz]

Adoraz, they won each game by 10+. The Penn game got tight but there was no risk of losing the SJU (PA) or LS games.

No risk against St. Joe's? Nova was only up a bucket with 4 minutes left and didn't pull away until the final minute. I also felt Nova got some favorable calls. This was against the #246 ranked team. Of the 6 cupcake games they've played this year, the 3 Big 5 games were much, much closer. Here are the KP rankings and score differentials:

Vs #276 Army: +43
Vs #162 Ohio: +24
Vs #267 M Tenn (N): +29
Total: +96

Vs #153 La Salle: +11
Vs #108 Penn: +11 (lead expanded due to free throws at the end)
@ #246 St. Joe's: +12 (lead expanded due to free throws at the end)
Total: +34 (total expanded due to free throws at the end)

Big 5 group is better than group 1, but Nova still performed far better against group 1 relative to their rankings. The group 1 games were all over by halftime while the Big 5 games came down to the final minutes.

[gosports1]

Ya, I'm ok with permanently locking Cuse/Pitt out of the Garden. After all, Bumheim did say he doesn't have the availability to continue scheduling UCONN...

I feel like I heard a similar comment from UConn about Providence.

[Django]

Ya, I'm ok with permanently locking Cuse/Pitt out of the Garden. After all, Bumheim did say he doesn't have the availability to continue scheduling UCONN...

I feel like I heard a similar comment from UConn about Providence.

This year that could have come from any Big East team. Could you go to the A10 till you get a point guard? Pleeeeeeaaaaase?

[NJRedman]

I certainly love the idea of doing a regular season MSG event, but the challenges all seem to revolve around making them conference games. I'd like to see something like "Big East vs Old Big East" challenge - perhaps a pair of double headers featuring local Big East teams vs football sellouts. And play it on the BET floor lol

Game 1: St. John's vs Rutgers
(Giving them to SJU since SHU already had a series with them)
Game 2: Villanova vs Pitt
Game 3: Seton Hall vs ...idk? Louisville or Notre Dame? There's not really another geographically obvious one
Game 4: Uconn vs Syracuse (the nightcap so we don't have to worry about all of your OTs screwing up the rest of the schedule)

Though I'll file this one away with another one I'd like to see that'll never happen (an exempt tourney at MSG featuring all NY and NJ teams - SHU, SJU, RU, Cuse, Princeton, Iona...maybe Monmouth and Stony Brook?). Or the all NJ one at the Prudential Center that would also never happen.

Why would we allow the teams which killed the Big East access to the Garden, our crown jewel? Those teams are hurting because of their lack of northeastern exposure, even with their 30 pieces of silver football money. I'll consider pissing on them if they're on fire, but other than that let them play down on tobacco road.

Even more, why highlight the old big east vs. "new"? We're the Big East. We're doing fine, no need to sit around and mull about the old girlfriend.

And, leave our Big 5 alone. It's a Philly thing; if you don't get it, that's your problem. We'll figure it out.

Just as long as it doesn't get in the way of the conference setting up some arrangement with another conference

[kayako]

I'd guess that we lose one of the cupcakes and one of the high- or mid-level matchups. The Big 5 is great - we get a bunch of top 150 games with zero travel burden, pay no $100K buy game fees and win basically all of them. Why would we ever stop doing that?

Don't conveniently leave out 2 lost home game revenue and 2 lost inventory for Fox.

Nobody has ever said stop doing it. Doing it 4 times a year will prove to be unworkable.

[kayako]

18 BE games
4 Big 5 games
1 exempt tourney
2 high-level OOC (e.g. Kansas + Ohio State this year)
1 mid-level OOC (UCONN the last three years)
2-3 cupcakes, often with one of those at a neutral site in NJ or somewhere else that Jay values showing the flag.

We'd be locked into 30 out of 31 games without having the ability to choose our opponents in a lot of years.

20 BE
4 Big 5
4 Exempt Tourney (which most likely includes 1 cupcake at home)
1 B1G
1 B12

Ignoring sos uncertainty (which I don't think is a problem with 20 BE games + conference challenges), that's not enough home games for what I'd like to assume is a top 20 program.

[Letsgonova]

14 home games (which is what that schedule will result in) is perfectly fine.

You also overestimate how much the program cares about scheduling flexibility. Scheduling is a PITA for most programs - we are blessed with having only a few variables to worry about.

I'll care a lot more if and when 1) Jay Wright thinks it's a problem, 2) we actually lose some games because of it, 3) the Big 5 negatively impacts our SOS. Until then, complete non-issue.

[Xudash]

I believe in and respect traditions.

Though it's not really comparable due to the difference in quantities (1:1 versus 1:4), I can't imagine someone not affiliated with Xavier telling Xavier that they should think about making material changes when it comes to UC and the Crosstown Shootout.

I get the arguments for modern day NCAA BBall realities, but still.

Beyond that, when it comes to the Big 5, I direct my focus to St. Joe's. I cannot believe how far that program has fallen. Their incredible strategic blunder to sink $15mm into a basketball gym virtually locked them into mid-major, no-growth status for the duration. What appears to have once been Nova's biggest rival in that group is now a shell of its former self from when we knew them well in the A10.

As far as LaSalle goes, I've never had any respect for that program. They simply refused to pump the necessary funding into that program in order to attempt to keep up. LaSalle, notwithstanding a good year or so here and there ("good" being defined in the eye of the beholder), has been a boat anchor on its fellow conference mates.

Penn and Temple? No problem. I get playing them season in and season out.