Pre Season ALL BIG EAST

[Devil's Advocate]

Bunch of lunatics voting obviously

Seton Hall over Nova. Each with 5 first place votes which means one coach had Nova 3rd?

The coaches don't include their own team in their ranking so there are only 9 first place votes. Seton Hall received 5, Nova 4. No one voted Nova 3rd. By math, they were 1/2 on all ballots.

It is very possible you don't know what you're talking about. The poll I saw shows both teams getting FIVE 1st place votes. I think the standard is that you can't vote your team 1st BUT I'm sure someone here can clarify.

I didn't see it in yesterday's release, but here's a link to last year -https://www.bigeast.com/news/2018/10/25/mens-basketball-villanova-picked-first-in-preseason-poll-coaches-again.aspx

"Coaches do not place their own teams on their ballots."

[Husky_U]

Every BE coach votes for teams 1-9. They don't include their own team. That means there are 10 total first place votes.

You're welcome.

[Devil's Advocate]

Indeed. My error. There are ten votes but one team is missing from each of them.

[Xuperman]

Wow shocked they picked Powell over Howard if only because Howard won it last year.
Also shocked Seton Hall edged out Nova as the Favorite.

Rest of the First team:
Alexander. Baldwin. Diallo. Howard. Marshall.

Second team:
Akinjo. Figueroa. Gillespie. Heron. Reed. Samuels

Honorable Mention Team:
Scruggs. Yurtseven

JRE FOY

Now that this has had time to sink in, it's hard to understand some of the selections here. Granted the 1st team was pretty much a given but the 2nd team is very questionable. one would think that both Jones and Watson deserved to be here, ESPECIALLY if it's the coaches doing the voting. 2 of the most physical guys in conference with outstanding numbers to back it up. I mean Figuroa over either one of these guys? And then there's Samuels. How in the world does a guy that averaged 6 points a game who's a mediocre shooter and rebounder, not to mention terrible from the line, make ALL conference? Must be based on that 1 game vs MU. I mean has there ever been a player voted ALL BE with those numbers? Got to be at least a dozen guys ahead of him.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Wow shocked they picked Powell over Howard if only because Howard won it last year.
Also shocked Seton Hall edged out Nova as the Favorite.

Rest of the First team:
Alexander. Baldwin. Diallo. Howard. Marshall.

Second team:
Akinjo. Figueroa. Gillespie. Heron. Reed. Samuels

Honorable Mention Team:
Scruggs. Yurtseven

JRE FOY

Now that this has had time to sink in, it's hard to understand some of the selections here. Granted the 1st team was pretty much a given but the 2nd team is very questionable. one would think that both Jones and Watson deserved to be here, ESPECIALLY if it's the coaches doing the voting. 2 of the most physical guys in conference with outstanding numbers to back it up. I mean Figuroa over either one of these guys? And then there's Samuels. How in the world does a guy that averaged 6 points a game who's a mediocre shooter and rebounder, not to mention terrible from the line, make ALL conference? Must be based on that 1 game vs MU. I mean has there ever been a player voted ALL BE with those numbers? Got to be at least a dozen guys ahead of him.

Your act is old.

[scoscox]

I mean, that is a legitimate point. I know samuels came on down the stretch, but he averaged 6 points and 4 boards a game. Both of the honorable mentions (Yurtseven and Scruggs), have pretty strong cases to make it over him (and gillespie tbh).

[scoscox]

Now that this has had time to sink in, it's hard to understand some of the selections here. Granted the 1st team was pretty much a given but the 2nd team is very questionable. one would think that both Jones and Watson deserved to be here, ESPECIALLY if it's the coaches doing the voting. 2 of the most physical guys in conference with outstanding numbers to back it up. I mean Figuroa over either one of these guys? And then there's Samuels. How in the world does a guy that averaged 6 points a game who's a mediocre shooter and rebounder, not to mention terrible from the line, make ALL conference? Must be based on that 1 game vs MU. I mean has there ever been a player voted ALL BE with those numbers? Got to be at least a dozen guys ahead of him.

Figueroa is pretty deserving. If I were to replace any of the second team guys it'd be the Nova guys

[Novachap]

It's all pretty interesting how we ALLL have our own bias related to these selections. That said, the voting was done by the coaches... they know these players better than any of us, so there is that.

[Xuperman]

It's all pretty interesting how we ALLL have our own bias related to these selections. That said, the voting was done by the coaches... they know these players better than any of us, so there is that.

What's up with that? They have seen Tyrique Jones for 3 years and they can't place him over a limp noodle like Samuels? I smell Nova bias. Ty is a BEast....no doubt!!! He will give all the little kids NIGHTMARES on the road this year.

[Novachap]

It's all pretty interesting how we ALLL have our own bias related to these selections. That said, the voting was done by the coaches... they know these players better than any of us, so there is that.

What's up with that? They have seen Tyrique Jones for 3 years and they can't place him over a limp noodle like Samuels? I smell Nova bias. Ty is a BEast....no doubt!!! He will give all the little kids NIGHTMARES on the road this year.

Yeah, crazy right? It's almost like they know what they're doing.