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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby scoscox » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:04 pm

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Postby Westbrook#36 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:14 pm

Insecure, fragile psyches? :lol: You should open a cinema, because that's some state of the art projection going on right there, little brother. This is all fun and games nothing serious, just something to about to kill time until the season gets here. In reality talking ish the X is shooting fish in a barrel. :)
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby fellahmuskie » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:29 pm

I can't wait to beat down Nova in the BE opener. And look forward to celebrating a championship at MSG. It's going to be a fun season.

Also, in case you didn't notice, we got rid of Mack and his Nova complex. Steele with a veteran, hungry roster is going to be trouble for the rest of the league.
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:00 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Man I'm trying really hard to understand why the X fans are chirping so much... Xuperman, Scosox, XUSandy. All predicting an easy waltz to the title for Team Snickers...I mean Musketeers.

Nova doesn't have the same amount of "talent" as X apparently. I'm curious as to what--other than your own biased opinions--is that is based on? I thought to myself that X has recruited fairly well I guess. Then I looked and noticed that in the last 4 recruiting cycles Nova has brought in 8 (actually 10, but 2 have since moved on) Top 100 players (24/7 Composite) and X brought in 4. And the 2 non-Top 100 players Nova brought in are actually starters for us anyway. Hmmm... recruiting doesn't explain it.

Maybe the confidence stems from past performance? Let's see... According to Kenpom Nova's average ranking over the last 6 years is 8.3; X is 33.0. Hmmmm...that can't be it.

Maybe conference performance will reveal the true story. Let's see... 6 years: Nova = 104-20; X = 73-48. Hmmm...That certainly doesn't explain it.

Oh, maybe head to head might be the reason for the optimism. Well Nova is 12-2 vs. X over the past 6 years. 86% winning %. Ouch...well that can't be it. :?

Maybe it's the coaching... Let's see Travis has an NIT win vs Toledo at Cintas and JW has 3 FF's, 2 NC's and an even an NIT Championship. Hmmm... well I'll admit that's a close one. But I'm going to give a slight edge to Jay just because he dresses a little better. :roll:

I'm struggling here... Oh wait, X has always been a great team come March. Aha! I think that might be it. OK, last 6 tourneys (well, 5 for X ;) ). Nova is 18-4. X is 7-5. Hey, very respectable for X. They've got 3 wins vs single digit teams in the last 6 tourneys. Not bad. Oh wait, Nova has 10...yikes. That's not really close either.

I'm running out of things here...help me out guys...I must be missing something obvious.

So...we're just talking gut feeling here? Or maybe you guys went to one of those Tarot Card readers in Cincy and she was bullish on the XMen? I'm sure in your eyes KyKy is the missing piece but the Nova guys (who were all ranked well ahead of KyKy) will surely struggle to contribute. Q and Naji (did I spell that right?) are going to take big steps forward but Nova has never shown the ability to develop players over the years. So Bey, Samuels, DCR, Swider, Slater and Gilespie all regress?

Nothing wrong with an opinion...everyone's got one. But I'm hoping you can lay some advanced insight on us--that has you convinced of Nova's demise and X's ascension--other than just a "feeling" rooted in your own biased fandom. And quite honestly if you want to talk about overall team talent, I think PC, SHU,G'town, CU and Marq all can make a pretty good argument vs. X.


C'mon Gumby, they're returning 4 starters from their NIT team! That's big stuff!! I don't know how anyone else will be able to keep up!
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby Novachap » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:06 pm

Hall2012 wrote:
GumbyDamnit! wrote:Man I'm trying really hard to understand why the X fans are chirping so much... Xuperman, Scosox, XUSandy. All predicting an easy waltz to the title for Team Snickers...I mean Musketeers.

Nova doesn't have the same amount of "talent" as X apparently. I'm curious as to what--other than your own biased opinions--is that is based on? I thought to myself that X has recruited fairly well I guess. Then I looked and noticed that in the last 4 recruiting cycles Nova has brought in 8 (actually 10, but 2 have since moved on) Top 100 players (24/7 Composite) and X brought in 4. And the 2 non-Top 100 players Nova brought in are actually starters for us anyway. Hmmm... recruiting doesn't explain it.

Maybe the confidence stems from past performance? Let's see... According to Kenpom Nova's average ranking over the last 6 years is 8.3; X is 33.0. Hmmmm...that can't be it.

Maybe conference performance will reveal the true story. Let's see... 6 years: Nova = 104-20; X = 73-48. Hmmm...That certainly doesn't explain it.

Oh, maybe head to head might be the reason for the optimism. Well Nova is 12-2 vs. X over the past 6 years. 86% winning %. Ouch...well that can't be it. :?

Maybe it's the coaching... Let's see Travis has an NIT win vs Toledo at Cintas and JW has 3 FF's, 2 NC's and an even an NIT Championship. Hmmm... well I'll admit that's a close one. But I'm going to give a slight edge to Jay just because he dresses a little better. :roll:

I'm struggling here... Oh wait, X has always been a great team come March. Aha! I think that might be it. OK, last 6 tourneys (well, 5 for X ;) ). Nova is 18-4. X is 7-5. Hey, very respectable for X. They've got 3 wins vs single digit teams in the last 6 tourneys. Not bad. Oh wait, Nova has 10...yikes. That's not really close either.

I'm running out of things here...help me out guys...I must be missing something obvious.

So...we're just talking gut feeling here? Or maybe you guys went to one of those Tarot Card readers in Cincy and she was bullish on the XMen? I'm sure in your eyes KyKy is the missing piece but the Nova guys (who were all ranked well ahead of KyKy) will surely struggle to contribute. Q and Naji (did I spell that right?) are going to take big steps forward but Nova has never shown the ability to develop players over the years. So Bey, Samuels, DCR, Swider, Slater and Gilespie all regress?

Nothing wrong with an opinion...everyone's got one. But I'm hoping you can lay some advanced insight on us--that has you convinced of Nova's demise and X's ascension--other than just a "feeling" rooted in your own biased fandom. And quite honestly if you want to talk about overall team talent, I think PC, SHU,G'town, CU and Marq all can make a pretty good argument vs. X.


C'mon Gumby, they're returning 4 starters from their NIT team! That's big stuff!! I don't know how anyone else will be able to keep up!


and, they are the flagship after all...
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby scoscox » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:10 pm

Ah you guys are finally starting to get it. The first step is acceptance. You can not outrun what is coming
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby Xuperman » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:32 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Man I'm trying really hard to understand why the X fans are chirping so much... Xuperman, Scosox, XUSandy. All predicting an easy waltz to the title for Team Snickers...I mean Musketeers.

Nova doesn't have the same amount of "talent" as X apparently. I'm curious as to what--other than your own biased opinions--is that is based on? I thought to myself that X has recruited fairly well I guess. Then I looked and noticed that in the last 4 recruiting cycles Nova has brought in 8 (actually 10, but 2 have since moved on) Top 100 players (24/7 Composite) and X brought in 4. And the 2 non-Top 100 players Nova brought in are actually starters for us anyway. Hmmm... recruiting doesn't explain it.

Maybe the confidence stems from past performance? Let's see... According to Kenpom Nova's average ranking over the last 6 years is 8.3; X is 33.0. Hmmmm...that can't be it.

Maybe conference performance will reveal the true story. Let's see... 6 years: Nova = 104-20; X = 73-48. Hmmm...That certainly doesn't explain it.

Oh, maybe head to head might be the reason for the optimism. Well Nova is 12-2 vs. X over the past 6 years. 86% winning %. Ouch...well that can't be it. :?

Maybe it's the coaching... Let's see Travis has an NIT win vs Toledo at Cintas and JW has 3 FF's, 2 NC's and an even an NIT Championship. Hmmm... well I'll admit that's a close one. But I'm going to give a slight edge to Jay just because he dresses a little better. :roll:

I'm struggling here... Oh wait, X has always been a great team come March. Aha! I think that might be it. OK, last 6 tourneys (well, 5 for X ;) ). Nova is 18-4. X is 7-5. Hey, very respectable for X. They've got 3 wins vs single digit teams in the last 6 tourneys. Not bad. Oh wait, Nova has 10...yikes. That's not really close either.

I'm running out of things here...help me out guys...I must be missing something obvious.

So...we're just talking gut feeling here? Or maybe you guys went to one of those Tarot Card readers in Cincy and she was bullish on the XMen? I'm sure in your eyes KyKy is the missing piece but the Nova guys (who were all ranked well ahead of KyKy) will surely struggle to contribute. Q and Naji (did I spell that right?) are going to take big steps forward but Nova has never shown the ability to develop players over the years. So Bey, Samuels, DCR, Swider, Slater and Gilespie all regress?

Nothing wrong with an opinion...everyone's got one. But I'm hoping you can lay some advanced insight on us--that has you convinced of Nova's demise and X's ascension--other than just a "feeling" rooted in your own biased fandom. And quite honestly if you want to talk about overall team talent, I think PC, SHU,G'town, CU and Marq all can make a pretty good argument vs. X.


Wow, that’s a thorough “living in the past” rant of the highest quality. The excessive sarcasm is a really boring but otherwise an excellent example of chest thumping. However, only those that benefit from the past feel compelled to relive it...especially in such detail.

Ok, let’s delve in to the past, BUT only the most resent. That would seem to be the most relevant to what will happen come BE play.

February THIS YEAR, X takes Nova to the Cintas woodshed for an old fashion ass whoppin’...Then 3 weeks later at MSG the Wildcats barely get the W in OT. VU LOSES their heart and soul Senior leaders while ALL of Xavier’s are back. Seems to be a clear advantage, no?...I’ll answer that for you. No doubt it is.
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:36 pm

Go Nova!
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby jbarajas0490 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:36 pm

You guys make it really hard to like Xavier. I like their team but the fans. It's probably because they're from Ohio. Don't get triggered.
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Re: Nova still on Top?

Postby scoscox » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:59 pm



Yes the lion slumbers as his pride is destroyed. Excellent imagery and shockingly self aware
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