Big East Conference Realignment v2018

[NJRedman]

Cincinnati has a reasonable shot at being included in a rebuilt Big 12 in the event they have their top brands defect in the next round of realignment, and quite honestly what amounts to a merger between the bottom half of the Big 12 and the top schools in the AAC under the Big 12 brand isn't a bad conference, even if it won't be getting major-conference football money. If the Big 12 stays together then Cincy's likely in the AAC for the foreseeable future.

But more I think about it, the idea is questionable for all sides. Why don't SJU just schedule H&H with Gonzaga if they want to play them so bad? Why would Gonzaga need to do this to prove their Big East worthiness?

Why does Saint John's need the Gavitt Games or the Big 12 challenge? They recently got a home-and-home with Duke, surely they can get Michigan or Texas on the schedule by themselves if they want to play them so badly. Why does any conference make scheduling arrangements of any sort?

It's St. John's, we don't spell out Saint. Saint John's is a tiny school in Minnesota that has some football coach who won a bunch of games or something.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/saint-jo ... minnesota/

[Django]

Cincinnati has a reasonable shot at being included in a rebuilt Big 12 in the event they have their top brands defect in the next round of realignment, and quite honestly what amounts to a merger between the bottom half of the Big 12 and the top schools in the AAC under the Big 12 brand isn't a bad conference, even if it won't be getting major-conference football money. If the Big 12 stays together then Cincy's likely in the AAC for the foreseeable future.

But more I think about it, the idea is questionable for all sides. Why don't SJU just schedule H&H with Gonzaga if they want to play them so bad? Why would Gonzaga need to do this to prove their Big East worthiness?

Why does Saint John's need the Gavitt Games or the Big 12 challenge? They recently got a home-and-home with Duke, surely they can get Michigan or Texas on the schedule by themselves if they want to play them so badly. Why does any conference make scheduling arrangements of any sort?

It's St. John's, we don't spell out Saint. Saint John's is a tiny school in Minnesota that has some football coach who won a bunch of games or something.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/saint-jo ... minnesota/

[Bogg]

Cincinnati has a reasonable shot at being included in a rebuilt Big 12 in the event they have their top brands defect in the next round of realignment, and quite honestly what amounts to a merger between the bottom half of the Big 12 and the top schools in the AAC under the Big 12 brand isn't a bad conference, even if it won't be getting major-conference football money. If the Big 12 stays together then Cincy's likely in the AAC for the foreseeable future.

But more I think about it, the idea is questionable for all sides. Why don't SJU just schedule H&H with Gonzaga if they want to play them so bad? Why would Gonzaga need to do this to prove their Big East worthiness?

Why does Saint John's need the Gavitt Games or the Big 12 challenge? They recently got a home-and-home with Duke, surely they can get Michigan or Texas on the schedule by themselves if they want to play them so badly. Why does any conference make scheduling arrangements of any sort?

It's St. John's, we don't spell out Saint. Saint John's is a tiny school in Minnesota that has some football coach who won a bunch of games or something.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/saint-jo ... minnesota/

Saint John's makes a Sweet 16 this century and I'll stop calling them Saint John's.

[JPSchmack]

Congrats you guys on adding UConn, and getting what you wanted.

I think it helps them more than the rest of you, but you'll be fine.

[Django]

Saint John's makes a Sweet 16 this century and I'll stop calling them Saint John's.

This is why I don’t complain about people calling us the Blue Jays or our coach Doug McDermott, until he does something in March he deserves to be in his sons shadow

[Xuperman]

UC has no shot at the B12. The B12 already kicked the tires on UC, Houston, BYU and some others and made a hard pass. Now that the B12 can play a conference championship with 10 schools. They have even less reason to take on crappy football programs, with crappy stadiums with no tradition like UC.

UC will never get in the B12. Now what could happen is the B12 could implode and the loser schools that would then be excluded from the P4 would probably merge with AAC schools but that would still leave UC on the outside of big time college football.

This IS A BEast B-BALL board but I can’t resist commenting on this load of BS.

The Bearcat football program has been killing it for over a decade. Other than Tuberville flaming out in his last 2 seasons, UC has piled up a ton of wins. Kelly had them ranked #3 and undefeated until he weaseled off to South Bend and refused to coach them in the Sugar Bowl vs Florida. As a matter of fact, had a Nebraska kicker not missed a 35 yd FG vs Alabama, the Cats would have played for a NC.

As far as “crappy stadium” goes, your out of your f’ing mind. Nippert has been upgraded to be one of the coolest places you’ll find to watch a football game. The fact that it is located in the center of campus along with it’s well defined history makes it top 10.

And BTW, if it wasn’t for those greedy a-holes in Austin and their Longhorn network, UC would already be in the B12. I can see no reason, other than $$$, that both UC and Memphis would not be a perfect fit. They need a bridge to WVU in the worst way. It would add 2 new substantial revenue markets and some serious muscle to their basketball product. Not to mention expanding to 14 by adding UCF and another. That would effectively end any further expansion for the P5. Orlando is a smoking hot market with world class facilities and would greatly enhance the B12.

[Django]

UC has no shot at the B12. The B12 already kicked the tires on UC, Houston, BYU and some others and made a hard pass. Now that the B12 can play a conference championship with 10 schools. They have even less reason to take on crappy football programs, with crappy stadiums with no tradition like UC.

UC will never get in the B12. Now what could happen is the B12 could implode and the loser schools that would then be excluded from the P4 would probably merge with AAC schools but that would still leave UC on the outside of big time college football.

This IS A BEast B-BALL board but I can’t resist commenting on this load of BS.

The Bearcat football program has been killing it for over a decade. Other than Tuberville flaming out in his last 2 seasons, UC has piled up a ton of wins. Kelly had them ranked #3 and undefeated until he weaseled off to South Bend and refused to coach them in the Sugar Bowl vs Florida. As a matter of fact, had a Nebraska kicker not missed a 35 yd FG vs Alabama, the Cats would have played for a NC.

As far as “crappy stadium” goes, your out of your f’ing mind. Nippert has been upgraded to be one of the coolest places you’ll find to watch a football game. The fact that it is located in the center of campus along with it’s well defined history makes it top 10.

And BTW, if it wasn’t for those greedy a-holes in Austin and their Longhorn network, UC would already be in the B12. I can see no reason, other than $$$, that both UC and Memphis would not be a perfect fit. They need a bridge to WVU in the worst way. It would add 2 new substantial revenue markets and some seri muscle to their basketball product. Not to mention expanding to 14 by adding UCF and another. That would effectively end any further expansion for the P5. Orlando is a smoking hot market with world class facilities and would greatly enhance the B12.

Nebraska hasn’t played Alabama since 1978, maybe you’re thinking of the Sooners?

Also curious if you get shit as an X fan rooting for the Bearcats?

[Xuperman]

Glad you pointed that out. I knew it was Nebraska that cost UC a shot at the title, so I looked it up. It was vs Texas in the B12 title game. The game was filled with controversy at the end with UT winning 13-12 on a long FG after 1 second was put back on the clock. I seem to remember that the Nebraska kicker missed one earlier that would have made that Texas FG irrelevant. Texas already had 1 loss, so had they not pulled off that miracle, an undefeated UC would have played Bama for the title.

As far as being a hardcore X fan and likewise a Bearcat football guy, it’s a weird dynamic. However a lot of XU fans root for Bearcat football......reason being, Xavier dropped football decades ago.

[NJRedman]

Cincinnati has a reasonable shot at being included in a rebuilt Big 12 in the event they have their top brands defect in the next round of realignment, and quite honestly what amounts to a merger between the bottom half of the Big 12 and the top schools in the AAC under the Big 12 brand isn't a bad conference, even if it won't be getting major-conference football money. If the Big 12 stays together then Cincy's likely in the AAC for the foreseeable future.


Why does Saint John's need the Gavitt Games or the Big 12 challenge? They recently got a home-and-home with Duke, surely they can get Michigan or Texas on the schedule by themselves if they want to play them so badly. Why does any conference make scheduling arrangements of any sort?

It's St. John's, we don't spell out Saint. Saint John's is a tiny school in Minnesota that has some football coach who won a bunch of games or something.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/saint-jo ... minnesota/

You just made the list buddy.

[gtmoBlue]

Congrats you guys on adding UConn, and getting what you wanted.

I think it helps them more than the rest of you, but you'll be fine.

Hey JP. Miss you around here fella.

The old school heads got their wish and are overjoyed with regaining their beloved UConn. They've put a run on Depends diapers in the mid Atlantic and the NY area, their incessant daydreaming of the return of the "good ole days" causing premature creaming in their jeans. Their wives are pissed as these guys get it up for UConn but not at home- go figure?

The Beast should go head and add SLU, but won't. They don't "get" boosting the middle tier teams - it's not rocket science?

Post more often JP. Your views are missed. Bring Bill Marsh with you.