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[kayako]

10 out of 18 BE regular season games ended up being Q1 opportunieis for DePaul and Georgetown.
8 out of 18 for Marquette and Nova.
9 out of 18 for everyone else.

[stever20]

10 out of 18 BE regular season games ended up being Q1 opportunieis for DePaul and Georgetown.
8 out of 18 for Marquette and Nova.
9 out of 18 for everyone else.

these numbers sound great....

however-
DePaul/Georgetown 2 home/8 away
Marquette/Nova 1 home/7 away
everyone else 2 home/7 away

that's what makes things so tough. So many of those games are road games. getting top 30 teams is so huge because those games become home games...

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

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NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NET RANKINGS - SELECTION SUNDAY - ncaa.com - Games through Sunday, March 17th

2 – Gonzaga (30-3; NCAA Tournament # 1 Seed)
26 – Villanova (25-9; NCAA Tournament # 6 Seed)
28 – Marquette (24-9; NCAA Tournament # 5 Seed)

53 – Creighton (18-14; NIT # 2 Seed)
57 - Seton Hall (20-13; NCAA Tournament # 10 Seed)
64 – Butler (16-16; NIT # 5 Seed)
67 – Xavier (18-15; NIT # 3 Seed)
69 - Dayton (21-11; NIT # 5 Seed)
70 – Providence (18-15; NIT # 4 Seed)
73 - St. John's (21-12; NCAA Tournament # 11 Seed – First Four Play-in Game at UD Arena)
82 – Georgetown (19-13; NIT # 3 Seed)

95 – UConn (16-17)
102 – DePaul (15-15; CBI Tournament)
103 - Saint Louis (23-12; NCAA Tournament # 13 Seed)
112 - Notre Dame (14-19)
118 - St. Bonaventure (18-16)
194 – Richmond (13-20)

[adoraz]

10 out of 18 BE regular season games ended up being Q1 opportunieis for DePaul and Georgetown.
8 out of 18 for Marquette and Nova.
9 out of 18 for everyone else.

these numbers sound great....

however-
DePaul/Georgetown 2 home/8 away
Marquette/Nova 1 home/7 away
everyone else 2 home/7 away

that's what makes things so tough. So many of those games are road games. getting top 30 teams is so huge because those games become home games...

Nah, the quad system may have benefited the Big East more than any other conference this year.

Tough for who exactly? At the end of OOC play, we had 4 teams in a good position to get a bid if they did enough in conference. All 4 teams made it. St. John's made it despite going 8-10 because of all the Q1 opportunities they had and took advantage of. Seton Hall made it at 9-9. The other half of the conference made the NIT.

Would we have been better off being in the ACC, where there are 6 top 30 teams, but nearly all of them unbeatable? How did that work out for NC State and Clemson? They only got 7/15 teams in.

I'm not saying the Big East was perfect by any means, and I'd like to see another team or two in the top 30 next year, but the Q1 opportunities were clearly a strength this year. The Johnnies getting blown out at Duke did nothing for our resume. Beating Creighton on the road, though? Counts the same, both Q1. Which schedule do you think NC State or Clemson would've preferred to play?

Villanova and Marquette finishing right inside the top 30 (Q1 home), and Creighton/Seton Hall/Butler/Xavier/Providence/St. John's finishing right inside the top 75 (Q1 away) worked out really, really well.

Let's say if instead of top 30/75, they instead used top 25/62.5 (exact same ratio as 30/75). So instead of 2 Q1 home opportunities we would've had 0... and instead of 8 away opportunities we would've had 4. Going from 10 total Q1 opportunities to 4 with MINOR changes to the Q1 parameters. No chance whatsoever St. John's would've gotten in. Things worked out beautifully for the league and you know it.

[stever20]

10 out of 18 BE regular season games ended up being Q1 opportunieis for DePaul and Georgetown.
8 out of 18 for Marquette and Nova.
9 out of 18 for everyone else.

these numbers sound great....

however-
DePaul/Georgetown 2 home/8 away
Marquette/Nova 1 home/7 away
everyone else 2 home/7 away

that's what makes things so tough. So many of those games are road games. getting top 30 teams is so huge because those games become home games...

Nah, the quad system may have benefited the Big East more than any other conference this year.

Tough for who exactly? At the end of OOC play, we had 4 teams in a good position to get a bid if they did enough in conference. All 4 teams made it. St. John's made it despite going 8-10 because of all the Q1 opportunities they had and took advantage of. Seton Hall made it at 9-9. The other half of the conference made the NIT.

Would we have been better off being in the ACC, where there are 6 top 30 teams, but nearly all of them unbeatable? How did that work out for NC State and Clemson? They only got 7/15 teams in.

I'm not saying the Big East was perfect by any means, and I'd like to see another team or two in the top 30 next year, but the Q1 opportunities were clearly a strength this year. The Johnnies getting blown out at Duke did nothing for our resume. Beating Creighton on the road, though? Counts the same, both Q1. Which schedule do you think NC State or Clemson would've preferred to play?

Villanova and Marquette finishing right inside the top 30 (Q1 home), and Creighton/Seton Hall/Butler/Xavier/Providence/St. John's finishing right inside the top 75 (Q1 away) worked out really, really well.

Let's say if instead of top 30/75, they instead used top 25/62.5 (exact same ratio as 30/75). So instead of 2 Q1 home opportunities we would've had 0... and instead of 8 away opportunities we would've had 4. Going from 10 total Q1 opportunities to 4 with MINOR changes to the Q1 parameters. No chance whatsoever St. John's would've gotten in. Things worked out beautifully for the league and you know it.

I think they are going to be changing it to reflect more what's on the team sheets top 15/40 for Q1A and then 16-30/41-75 for Q1B. And I think they used that criteria quite a lot this year- I mean, just look at where Seton Hall got seeded. They had 7 Q1 wins, but only 2 were Q1A wins. And they got stuck as a 10 seed. I think that's going to get formalized this offseason as totally new quads. Creating 6 quads.

[XUFan09]

It already is changed to reflect sub-tiers for Q1 and Q2. Just check out NCAA Team Sheets. That's what the Committee gets as an initial one-page summary of teams.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... selections

[stever20]

It already is changed to reflect sub-tiers for Q1 and Q2. Just check out NCAA Team Sheets. That's what the Committee gets as an initial one-page summary of teams.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/med ... selections

yes. I think those sub tiers will be even more formalized as seperate tiers and not just sub-tiers.