NET Rankings

[adoraz]

yeah and also against a team like Texas playing tonight. 16-13 right now, losing to Texas Tech tonight. Got 1 game left with TCU and tourney. 17-15 probably won't cut it for them....

Terrible night for the bubble. Bracket Matrix has Texas as a 10 seed and TCU as an 11 seed. Will be interesting to see where they're at tomorrow.

Is this the worst bubble in history?

[stever20]

yeah and also against a team like Texas playing tonight. 16-13 right now, losing to Texas Tech tonight. Got 1 game left with TCU and tourney. 17-15 probably won't cut it for them....

Terrible night for the bubble. Bracket Matrix has Texas as a 10 seed and TCU as an 11 seed. Will be interesting to see where they're at tomorrow.

Is this the worst bubble in history?

It has got to be just about. I mean a team like a Temple in most years would be fighting quite frankly for a NIT bid right now. This year, they're in over half the brackets.

You would think the winner of Texas/TCU on Saturday will be pretty safely in. But the loser is probably pretty safely out... Unless they can get to the semifinals. even there, probably pretty tough.

[JAY DOG]

NCAA NET going into evening games on March 5, 2019
Rank Prev School Conf Rec Road Neu Home
25 25 Villlanova Big East 22-8 5-6 4-0 13-2
26 26 Marquette Big East 23-6 6-3 1-1 16-2
49 50 Creighton Big East 16-13 4-7 3-0 8-6
59 59 Butler Big East 15-14 2-8 2-2 11-4
61 61 St. John's Big East 20-10 4-6 3-0 13-4
63 63 Seton Hall Big East 16-12 3-8 4-0 9-4
70 70 Xavier Big East 16-13 4-6 1-2 11-5
72 72 Gtown Big East 18-11 4-5 1-1 13-5
78 78 Prov Big East 16-13 5-5 1-2 10-6
104 104 DePaul Big East 14-13 3-7 0-0 11-6

[hoyahooligan]

all the BE (besides the teams that play them this week) really need to be rooting for providence. If they can get into the top 75 it'll give a bunch of teams an additional tier 1 win.

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NET RANKINGS - ncaa.com - Games through Wednesday, March 6th

25 - Villanova
29 - Marquette

52 – Creighton
59 – Butler
61 - Seton Hall
62 - St. John's
72 – Xavier
74 – Providence
79 – Georgetown

100 - DePaul

2018-19 BIG EAST STANDINGS - Games through Wednesday, March 6th

TEAM (CONF W-L) OVERALL W-L

#23 Villanova (13-4) 22-8
#16 Marquette (12-5) 23-7

St. John's (8-9) 20-10
Georgetown (8-9) 18-12
Seton Hall (8-9) 17-12
Creighton (8-9) 17-13
Xavier (8-9) 16-14

DePaul (7-10) 15-13
Butler (7-10) 16-14
Providence (6-11) 16-14

[Hall2012]

I would really love to see the NET formula because occasionally (meaning regularly) you see things that simply don't make sense.

Seton Hall scores a quad 1 win over Marquette and jumps 2 spots from 63 to 61
Arksansas blows out a terrible Vanderbilt team and jumps 8 spots from 73 to 65
Mizzou blows out a just as terrible Georgia team and jumps 15 spots from 88 to 73

I know it's been said here before I but I think it bears repeating that NET seems to favor blowing out garbage teams FAR too much over beating good teams in a competitive game. If this is the way of the future, we probably need to take JP's advice and bring in a bunch of cupcakes for us to fatten up on with lopsided scores. Hopefully the committee gives NET a passing glance, laughs at it, and then looks at the things that really matter.

[Jet915]

I would really love to see the NET formula because occasionally (meaning regularly) you see things that simply don't make sense.

Seton Hall scores a quad 1 win over Marquette and jumps 2 spots from 63 to 61
Arksansas blows out a terrible Vanderbilt team and jumps 8 spots from 73 to 65
Mizzou blows out a just as terrible Georgia team and jumps 15 spots from 88 to 73

I know it's been said here before I but I think it bears repeating that NET seems to favor blowing out garbage teams FAR too much over beating good teams in a competitive game. If this is the way of the future, we probably need to take JP's advice and bring in a bunch of cupcakes for us to fatten up on with lopsided scores. Hopefully the committee gives NET a passing glance, laughs at it, and then looks at the things that really matter.

I agree totally, you get rewarded more for blowing out garbage teams vs. barely beating good teams. Case in point, NC State who had like the worst noncon in D1 but blew out garbage teams has a NET of 35. Their rpi? It's like 120. That is a HUGE difference. Seems like the new formula is to schedule a ton of cupcakes in noncon and blow them out.

[stever20]

It would be nice to see the actual ratings and not the ordinal ratings to see how close teams are..... I have a feeling like it's extremely close in some places. an uptick by .10 might only be 2-3 spots in some places, but a 10-15 spot increase in other places.

a small part of both Arkansas and Missouri's climbs last night specifically were both of those were on the road, while Seton Hall was at home.

Georgia was a Q2 game for Missouri. Vandy a Q3 game. Especially for Missouri- that's not a terrible team.

[stever20]

I would really love to see the NET formula because occasionally (meaning regularly) you see things that simply don't make sense.

Seton Hall scores a quad 1 win over Marquette and jumps 2 spots from 63 to 61
Arksansas blows out a terrible Vanderbilt team and jumps 8 spots from 73 to 65
Mizzou blows out a just as terrible Georgia team and jumps 15 spots from 88 to 73

I know it's been said here before I but I think it bears repeating that NET seems to favor blowing out garbage teams FAR too much over beating good teams in a competitive game. If this is the way of the future, we probably need to take JP's advice and bring in a bunch of cupcakes for us to fatten up on with lopsided scores. Hopefully the committee gives NET a passing glance, laughs at it, and then looks at the things that really matter.

I agree totally, you get rewarded more for blowing out garbage teams vs. barely beating good teams. Case in point, NC State who had like the worst noncon in D1 but blew out garbage teams has a NET of 35. Their rpi? It's like 120. That is a HUGE difference. Seems like the new formula is to schedule a ton of cupcakes in noncon and blow them out.

Here's the thing though with NC State..... the NET reflects all the other metrics around just about....
NC State 20-10 NET: 35 ( KPI: 73, SOR: 36) (BPI: 28, POM: 40, SAG: 30)

only the KPI is it not close to.

Also, NC State while they did have 352 OOC, they still had 3 Q1 OOC games, going 2-1 in those 3. The NET obviously has a boost for those top wins.

The NET is going to be used absolutely no less than they used the RPI, and quite possibly a lot more, as this is what the NABC told them they wanted.... Also, the NET forms all the Quads. So that's pretty big as well...

[billyjack]

If RPI was being used this season, then we'd have at least 5 bids:
- 18 Villanova
- 22 Marquette
- 45 St John's
- 51 Seton Hall
- 52 Creighton

We really have no clue how the committee will select teams this year.

Other conferences have some bad optics, worse than ours i think. For example, South Carolina won 10 games in the SEC but sucked in non-conference. They're not on the bubble, but doesn't it look like sh-t for the SEC to have the Cocks at 10 wins?

Providence lost to UMass, but at least PC is in our basement, and has a win at Texas (and won at BC, who sucks, but hey, ACC).

I think the deeper we'd dig, the more examples of this we'd find. Nebraska, however, i think bolsters the B1G's status, cuz they were great in non-conf yet sucked in the B1G.