Sat. Dec. 29, 2018 (4) Big East Games....

[SJUBBALL]

Extremely overdue for terrible luck...we've only been robbed of a national championship by a bogus call. And 2 years ago against Arkansas again got knocked out of the tournament by a blown call. We've been on the other side plenty and I get it - it sucks. Unfortunately, human error is part of the game. The good news for SJU is they have plenty of time to overcome it.

I don't know Hall's history of blown calls, but you guys have had 100X more success than we have the past few years. It's a lot harder to swallow this when our fan base hasn't had anything to cheer about in years. Every time we find a bit of success, it always comes with an *. Start 12-0? No credit due to easy schedule. Beat Duke and Nova? No chance at the Tournament. Make the Tournament? CO suspended for weed. It's ridiculous.

If we still end up making the Tournament, then this game won't be seen as a big deal. But for now it's really tough to accept the outcome.

I think we beat Marquette just because of the sheer desperation the program feels after losing this game. The fans at CA will be rocking because no one can really stomach an 0-2 start when one of the losses was a choke job + rig job combo

[stever20]

and the NET impacts from the games
St John's down to #37 -11
Seton Hall up to #50 +9

Butler drops to #51. -12

the whole list-
Marquette 14
Villanova 32
St John's 37
Creighton 48
Seton Hall 50
Butler 51
Providence 67
Xavier 74
Georgetown 123
DePaul 133
62.90

league did fall behind the SEC- their average now is 62.07.

[stever20]

Seton Hall the big winner yesterday.... Not just what you think- but also Maryland due to the Seton Hall win along with a good win over Radford jumped up 9 spots to #42. Also, SLU jumped up 9 spots to #64.

[sju88grad]

Extremely overdue for terrible luck...we've only been robbed of a national championship by a bogus call. And 2 years ago against Arkansas again got knocked out of the tournament by a blown call. We've been on the other side plenty and I get it - it sucks. Unfortunately, human error is part of the game. The good news for SJU is they have plenty of time to overcome it.

I don't know Hall's history of blown calls, but you guys have had 100X more success than we have the past few years. It's a lot harder to swallow this when our fan base hasn't had anything to cheer about in years. Every time we find a bit of success, it always comes with an *. Start 12-0? No credit due to easy schedule. Beat Duke and Nova? No chance at the Tournament. Make the Tournament? CO suspended for weed. It's ridiculous.

If we still end up making the Tournament, then this game won't be seen as a big deal. But for now it's really tough to accept the outcome.

I think we beat Marquette just because of the sheer desperation the program feels after losing this game. The fans at CA will be rocking because no one can really stomach an 0-2 start when one of the losses was a choke job + rig job combo

I hope you’re right. I’ll be at the game on Tuesday night. Really need a win to remove the bad stench from last night.

[Hall2012]

Seton Hall the big winner yesterday.... Not just what you think- but also Maryland due to the Seton Hall win along with a good win over Radford jumped up 9 spots to #42. Also, SLU jumped up 9 spots to #64.

Kentucky beating Louisville helped too. Of course SHU has a loss to Louisville that offsets it a little, but the Cards would have to tank pretty hard to turn into a black spot on the Hall's resume. It's better to see the Kentucky win get as impressive as possible

[REDMEN1415]

Extremely overdue for terrible luck...we've only been robbed of a national championship by a bogus call. And 2 years ago against Arkansas again got knocked out of the tournament by a blown call. We've been on the other side plenty and I get it - it sucks. Unfortunately, human error is part of the game. The good news for SJU is they have plenty of time to overcome it.

I don't know Hall's history of blown calls, but you guys have had 100X more success than we have the past few years. It's a lot harder to swallow this when our fan base hasn't had anything to cheer about in years. Every time we find a bit of success, it always comes with an *. Start 12-0? No credit due to easy schedule. Beat Duke and Nova? No chance at the Tournament. Make the Tournament? CO suspended for weed. It's ridiculous.

If we still end up making the Tournament, then this game won't be seen as a big deal. But for now it's really tough to accept the outcome.

I think we beat Marquette just because of the sheer desperation the program feels after losing this game. The fans at CA will be rocking because no one can really stomach an 0-2 start when one of the losses was a choke job + rig job combo

I been saying it all along, if we lose @ SHU, Tuesday becomes a must win.
Now the pressure is on us. Absolutely can't start 0-2

[MullinMayhem]

Seton Hall is not a very good team and they were exposed in the 1st half. They are not a tournament team. Why? They won't win consistently. They will knock off a few good teams but lose lots of close ones too. Last night was terrible for the league because St. John's was coming in as a potential Big East Champ. Seton Hall was picked about 7th preseason. It's terrible for the league.

Tomorrow would have set up a potentially #25 St. John's vs. #15 or so Marquette. Now our momentum is dead and every pundit will be saying "SJ is a paper tiger, they just lost immediately to SHU!" all because of the worst reffing ever. LJ made a fantastic play and the game was ours. We never start off well in conference play and to already get our first loss 100% because of the refs is infuriating. Mullin will be fired after this season when we don't make the tournament.

[sju88grad]

Seton Hall is not a very good team and they were exposed in the 1st half. They are not a tournament team. Why? They won't win consistently. They will knock off a few good teams but lose lots of close ones too. Last night was terrible for the league because St. John's was coming in as a potential Big East Champ. Seton Hall was picked about 7th preseason. It's terrible for the league.

Tomorrow would have set up a potentially #25 St. John's vs. #15 or so Marquette. Now our momentum is dead and every pundit will be saying "SJ is a paper tiger, they just lost immediately to SHU!" all because of the worst reffing ever. LJ made a fantastic play and the game was ours. We never start off well in conference play and to already get our first loss 100% because of the refs is infuriating. Mullin will be fired after this season when we don't make the tournament.

Oh good god.....

[Hall2012]

Okay I changed my mind, I feel bad for Johnnies fans except Mayhem. With ridiculous takes like that, I'm actually laughing at his misery.

[SJUBBALL]

Okay I changed my mind, I feel bad for Johnnies fans except Mayhem. With ridiculous takes like that, I'm actually laughing at his misery.

I’m glad you can separate him from the rest of the fans lol. Seton hall is a good, and exciting team that is OVERACHIEVING. That is something that St. John’s never does. We never overachieve, so I think mullinmayhem is just projecting his feelings of jealousy on seton hall for doing more with a team that was under estimated before the season.

Good luck to you guys, my beef is with the refs last night, not with your team and your program. You are doing a great job