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Re: NET Rankings

Postby stever20 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:30 pm

Using Warren Nolan's numbers- records vs tier 1
team NET RPI
SJ 0-0 1-0
Mar 2-2 3-2
But 1-1 1-1
Geo 0-1 0-2
Dep 0-2 0-0
Vil 1-2 1-1
PC 0-1 0-1
Cre 0-3 0-3
SH 1-2 0-2
Xav 0-3 0-3
tot 5-17 6-15
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby adoraz » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:31 pm

3 teams in the top 30:

Marquette #20
St. John's #27
Villanova #28

Only other top 50 team is Butler (#43). Looking like anywhere from 3-5 bid league IMO, with the most likely outcome being 4. Not bad for a down year.
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby Masterofreality20 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:42 pm

Anybody subscribe to Kenpom?

Was curious to see his conference rankings so far this year.

Used to get it from RPI, but RPI is dead. I would assume the Big East is around 4-5 in Conference rank? Thanks
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby vtwarrior » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:04 am

I believe you are missing Marquette at 3-2 Quad 1......

Louisville neutral site only 1 - 50.....equals another Quad 1 win.....

K St and Wiscy at home.....

Home is 1 - 25.....Away is 1 -75
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby X-man » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:15 pm

Only Big East "superfan" stever would create a ranking like this one, and interpret it as a negative for the Big East. Here is his post today from the other board:

"wow the conference NET numbers comparison with RPI not good for the Big East...

ACC- RPI 86.60 NET 60.73 +25.87
SEC- RPI 89.50 NET 68.07 +21.43
P12- RPI 103.42 NET 88.67 +14.75
AAC- RPI 128.08 NET 115.25 +12.83
B12- RPI 58.00 NET 50.80 +7.20
B10- RPI 44.93 NET 42.57 +2.36
Big East- RPI 58.6 NET 60.9 -2.3

I think the big takeaway is that the NET doesn't reward anywhere near as much for moral victories.... Big East only 4-20 vs tier 1 games right now. Of the big 4- that's the worst- B12 9-9, B10 18-31, ACC 13-17."

A more charitable interpretation might, for example, point out that the Big East is third in the RPI and virtually tied for third in the NET. And of course stever's beloved AAAAAAACCC is rated far below all P-5 leagues and the Big East in both rankings.
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby Xavier4036 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:49 pm

Why on earth would you copy and paste Stever’s posts from another board here? He’s finally either been banned or placed on a timeout here. Please don’t bring his nonsense here from another board.
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby adoraz » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:41 pm

Yeah, that shouldn't be approved here since he always complains when people use RPI. Now that conference rankings are available by NET (at Warren Nolan), RPI is 100% irrelevant. Guess he's backtracking to fit his narrative...

Also an odd insight to get from that chart lol. -2 is statistically insignificant, especially given the smallest available sample size (10 teams).

Exhibit A: my Johnnies are enjoying a 29 NET (RPI is 44... +15). 8-)

I enjoy some push back, but it has to be intelligent and noteworthy.
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby kayako » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:09 am

3 in top 30
5 in top 75
A couple more with real chance of getting in the top 75. Need to finish the non-conference play strong to get a realistic shot at 6 teams in the tourney.
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby EMT » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:39 pm

Xavier4036 wrote:Why on earth would you copy and paste Stever’s posts from another board here? He’s finally either been banned or placed on a timeout here. Please don’t bring his nonsense here from another board.


what did stever do to get banned/TO?
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Re: NET Rankings

Postby kayako » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:20 am

A new update:

13 Marquette
27 St. John's
34 Villanova
39 Butler
53 Creighton
59 Seton Hall
69 Providence
80 Xavier
108 DePaul
130 Georgetown

Not too shabby.
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