NET Rankings

[stever20]

so looking at these now week to week
school today/lw
St John's 33/29
Villanova 37/38
Marquette 39/99
Creighton 47/36
Butler 49/45
Xavier 62/101
DePaul 70/78
Seton Hall 86/85
Georgetown 87/76
Providence 99/115

last mon avg 70.2
today avg 60.9

based on performances for the week- seems pretty reasonable.

I think a key for the Big East is going to be to get some teams into that top 30. Right now these would mean not a single home game would be a tier 1 game.

[kayako]

Every BE team is in top 100 now, with Providence at 99.

Numbers I am following are top 30 (both home & road tier 1) and top 75 (road tier 1).
Currently we have 0 and 7 respectively, that's 6 or 7 tier 1 opportunities per team. I think we'll increase that number to 9 or 10 eventually.

[stever20]

Every BE team is in top 100 now, with Providence at 99.

Numbers I am following are top 30 (both home & road tier 1) and top 75 (road tier 1).
Currently we have 0 and 7 respectively, that's 6 or 7 tier 1 opportunities per team. I think we'll increase that number to 9 or 10 eventually.

The key one IMO is top 30 because that's home games being tier 1. Which gives teams a much more realistic chance of winning those opportunities....

In RPI right now it's 3 top 30 and 4 between 31-75. So would be 10. And with that Big East has #76 and 77. So would have had 10 right now.

[xu1990]

Xavier beats Miami of Ohio and Oakland Univ and jumps 50 spots...sure...great system

[kayako]

Every BE team is in top 100 now, with Providence at 99.

Numbers I am following are top 30 (both home & road tier 1) and top 75 (road tier 1).
Currently we have 0 and 7 respectively, that's 6 or 7 tier 1 opportunities per team. I think we'll increase that number to 9 or 10 eventually.

The key one IMO is top 30 because that's home games being tier 1. Which gives teams a much more realistic chance of winning those opportunities....

In RPI right now it's 3 top 30 and 4 between 31-75. So would be 10. And with that Big East has #76 and 77. So would have had 10 right now.

We'll get teams in top 30, just by letting the gaudy records fall eventually. Although that group may include St. John's to be fair. The only question is how many teams.

On the other side, every road game should be at least tier 2 rather comfortably, and I expect only 1 or 2 tier 3 home games. It remains to be seen, but the talk of not having enough tier 1 opportunities is greatly overblown imo.

[stever20]

Xavier beats Miami of Ohio and Oakland Univ and jumps 50 spots...sure...great system

part of it is some teams around them lost....

but also-
Wisconsin- beat NC State and Iowa
Auburn- only had 1 game vs St Peters- won by 50
San Diego St- went 2-0- including a road win at Illinois St

Also it's 39 spots. It's just starting to normalize. RPI had Xavier jumping up by 21 spots... You can see those big swings early in the season....

[stever20]

Every BE team is in top 100 now, with Providence at 99.

Numbers I am following are top 30 (both home & road tier 1) and top 75 (road tier 1).
Currently we have 0 and 7 respectively, that's 6 or 7 tier 1 opportunities per team. I think we'll increase that number to 9 or 10 eventually.

The key one IMO is top 30 because that's home games being tier 1. Which gives teams a much more realistic chance of winning those opportunities....

In RPI right now it's 3 top 30 and 4 between 31-75. So would be 10. And with that Big East has #76 and 77. So would have had 10 right now.

We'll get teams in top 30, just by letting the gaudy records fall eventually. Although that group may include St. John's to be fair. The only question is how many teams.

On the other side, every road game should be at least tier 2 rather comfortably, and I expect only 1 or 2 tier 3 home games. It remains to be seen, but the talk of not having enough tier 1 opportunities is greatly overblown imo.

Right now the only non M7 conference schools in the top 30 are Gonzaga(they'll stick), Nevada(they'll stick), Buffalo(they'll stick), Utah St(ok maybe), San Francisco(yes), and Radford(yes). So only like 2-3 spots. And the others in the top 30 are all fairly realistic. Maybe 1-2 outliers, but not much more.

Also, do you really only expect 1-2 teams to finish outside the top 75? Because that's tier 3 home games.

[adoraz]

so looking at these now week to week
school today/lw
St John's 33/29
Villanova 37/38
Marquette 39/99
Creighton 47/36
Butler 49/45
Xavier 62/101
DePaul 70/78
Seton Hall 86/85
Georgetown 87/76
Providence 99/115

last mon avg 70.2
today avg 60.9

based on performances for the week- seems pretty reasonable.

I think a key for the Big East is going to be to get some teams into that top 30. Right now these would mean not a single home game would be a tier 1 game.

Regarding your top 30 comment, I'd argue SJU is basically in the top 30 now. Why? We still have a bunch of mid majors, and suspect major teams, within the top 30/50/100.

#13 Buffalo
#15 NC State
#17 Utah St
#22 Pittsburgh
#29 San Fran
#30 Radford

How many of those teams will still be ahead of SJU later in the season? Maybe a couple, but certainly not all of them.

Then there are other teams like #35 Liberty who are getting blown out by Georgetown right now.

[stever20]

so looking at these now week to week
school today/lw
St John's 33/29
Villanova 37/38
Marquette 39/99
Creighton 47/36
Butler 49/45
Xavier 62/101
DePaul 70/78
Seton Hall 86/85
Georgetown 87/76
Providence 99/115

last mon avg 70.2
today avg 60.9

based on performances for the week- seems pretty reasonable.

I think a key for the Big East is going to be to get some teams into that top 30. Right now these would mean not a single home game would be a tier 1 game.

Regarding your top 30 comment, I'd argue SJU is basically in the top 30 now. Why? We still have a bunch of mid majors, and suspect major teams, within the top 30/50/100.

#13 Buffalo
#15 NC State
#17 Utah St
#22 Pittsburgh
#29 San Fran
#30 Radford

How many of those teams will still be ahead of SJU later in the reason? Maybe a couple, but certainly not all of them.

Then there are other teams like #35 Liberty who are getting blown out by Georgetown right now.

Buffalo may well stick in top 30... Same with Utah St. Utah St and Pitt maybe not and SF/Radford definitely not....

but there are others like Purdue, Miss St, Notre Dame, Arkansas, Louisville, FSU that are just outside the top 30, along with others like Kansas St(#44 right now) that could easily pass....

For Big East teams- this weekend is crucial.... Saturday has 8 games and by Ken Pom, the Big East is projected to go only 2-6. With Marquette, Creighton, and Xavier amongst the losers.

It'll be interesting with St John's to see the impacts of their remaining OOC games.... 347/296/229/182/231 are the last 5 before conference play.

[kayako]

As soon as adoraz listed NET #20 Pitt, they immediately lose to NET #259 Niagara...