ACC Trying To Get Into MSG

[billyjack]

Not sure which post to respond to...

Some thoughts:

1. The only quotes about the B1G or ACC moving to MSG are coming from Delany and Swofford. They're posturing with each other. They have a pattern of posturing and blustering and making dumb decisions over the years. They have bad advisors. They're idiots who apparently know shit about NYC and the northeast... each thought they were going to own NY via Barclays and/or MSG a week early. Each thought that NYC could be owned by taking "Rutgers" and/or "a combination of BC/ Pitt/ Syracuse".

2. Thankfully, the Big East braintrust will never move our tournament to Brooklyn. That would be an absolutely and completely horrible idea. I can't stress this enough. Even talk of a move to Brooklyn would be a f---ing disaster. Absolutely terrible awful, asinine, horrible. All of us recruit with MSG being an enormous jewel... and only non-NY'ers like Swofford believe that Brooklyn equals Manhattan.

3. I have a series of other thoughts, but i'll wait on posting those because i don't want to distract from my #2 comment above.





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[TheBasketballOpinion]

Absolute worst case is sharing MSG with them every couple years. Fox isn't going to let MSG go.

[stever20]

Absolute worst case is sharing MSG with them every couple years. Fox isn't going to let MSG go.

well one point about that- the Big East deal runs thru 2026, the exact same length as the BET. So that will be part of the next deals for both BET and TV.

[TheBasketballOpinion]

Absolute worst case is sharing MSG with them every couple years. Fox isn't going to let MSG go.

well one point about that- the Big East deal runs thru 2026, the exact same length as the BET. So that will be part of the next deals for both BET and TV.

MSG isn't going to let the venue be vacant on the off years the other conferences move. It will continue to be the BE''s home.

[adoraz]

*MSG can host two conferences per year.
*Neither the ACC nor B1G seem willing to go yearly.
*Big East solely wants to go yearly.
*Attendance is not a concern for the Big East.
*Big East also includes teams that are relevant to MSG during the regular season, including St. John's, Nova, and Seton Hall. And to a lesser extent, teams like Providence and Georgetown.

No way that MSG risks losing a partner like the Big East. Worst case we play a week early (or split games during an extended championship week) some years. As a fan I wouldn't mind playing a week early anyways. The B1G already set that precedent. Actually think it'd be cool to play earlier so I could fully embrace the other Tournaments the following week.

[TBC Alum]

* As a fan I wouldn't mind playing a week early anyways.

As a newbie I defer all of the tradition issues to you long timers. Even after 5 years I feel like I'm still learning about the league and traditions (and I LOVE IT!)

The MVC tourney was a week early and I hated it. Yes, there was a week of rest. But I always felt like we were primed for your best ball for the conference tourney and then had to take a week off. Too much lost momentum.

[billyjack]

*MSG can host two conferences per year.
*Neither the ACC nor B1G seem willing to go yearly.
*Big East solely wants to go yearly.
*Attendance is not a concern for the Big East.
*Big East also includes teams that are relevant to MSG during the regular season, including St. John's, Nova, and Seton Hall. And to a lesser extent, teams like Providence and Georgetown.

No way that MSG risks losing a partner like the Big East. Worst case we play a week early (or split games during an extended championship week) some years. As a fan I wouldn't mind playing a week early anyways. The B1G already set that precedent. Actually think it'd be cool to play earlier so I could fully embrace the other Tournaments the following week.

Just my opinion, but the Big East keeping MSG, exclusively, during tournament week, is extremely extremely extremely important. This is Big East 101.

We shouldn't concede in any way on this. We don't need to concede anything either. We have sellouts. We have the National Champions. And we freakin live here. Like, it's our home. This isn't going to make anyone like us better either.

This would be like the Brewers or Royals babbling on about wanting to play games at Fenway Park, and Red Sox fans actually considering ways of accommodating them... and the Sox fans think it's a good idea to play the Yankees up in freakin Caribou Maine. I mean, c'mon.

[adoraz]

*MSG can host two conferences per year.
*Neither the ACC nor B1G seem willing to go yearly.
*Big East solely wants to go yearly.
*Attendance is not a concern for the Big East.
*Big East also includes teams that are relevant to MSG during the regular season, including St. John's, Nova, and Seton Hall. And to a lesser extent, teams like Providence and Georgetown.

No way that MSG risks losing a partner like the Big East. Worst case we play a week early (or split games during an extended championship week) some years. As a fan I wouldn't mind playing a week early anyways. The B1G already set that precedent. Actually think it'd be cool to play earlier so I could fully embrace the other Tournaments the following week.

Just my opinion, but the Big East keeping MSG, exclusively, during tournament week, is extremely extremely extremely important. This is Big East 101.

We shouldn't concede in any way on this. We don't need to concede anything either. We have sellouts. We have the National Champions. And we freakin live here. Like, it's our home. This isn't going to make anyone like us better either.

This would be like the Brewers or Royals babbling on about wanting to play games at Fenway Park, and Red Sox fans actually considering ways of accommodating them... and the Sox fans think it's a good idea to play the Yankees up in freakin Caribou Maine. I mean, c'mon.

That's a fair perspective, and I hope/assume it's the same mentality the Big East execs have.

As a fan I don't really mind when we play, as long as it's at MSG. I wouldn't like to see ACC or B1G in there during tournament week, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either.

Now, if 10 years from now we're playing at Barclays or anywhere else, then I'd be pissed.

But ultimately you're correct, don't give in to anything we don't need to.