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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby billyjack » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:23 pm

UConn (really every team) should absolutely use the UNC Tarheels' strategy. Ignore NCAA investigators, lie, stonewall, knock over chairs, delay, and disregard any penalty, until the Tarheels lose at least 2 of their championships.
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby REDMEN1415 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:04 pm

Hey Sid, karma is a real mother fucker huh?
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby hoyahooligan » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:02 pm

Put me in the camp that thinks uconn self reported so they could get rid of Ollie at a cheaper rate. :lol:
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby paulxu » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:00 pm

Just follow the UNC blueprint.
If you are doing something against the rules for an athlete...just do the exact same thing for a couple of non-athletes.

NCAA will never be able to touch you.
...he went up late, and I was already up there.
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby Devil's Advocate » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:24 pm

hoyahooligan wrote:Put me in the camp that thinks uconn self reported so they could get rid of Ollie at a cheaper rate. :lol:

They should self-report the football program. Then maybe the dead weight could be removed.
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby Bluejay » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:31 am

GumbyDamnit! wrote:FYI, current records of former BE programs:

AAC:
Cinn. - 1st Place / 7-0 / 18-2 / RPI: 23 (tourney team)
UConn - 5th / 4-3 / 11-9 / 76 (no shot)
USF - 12th / 1-7 / 8-13 / 265 (no shot)

ACC:
L'ville - 3rd / 5-2 / 15-5 / 17 (tourney team)
Miami - 6th / 4-3 / 15-4 / 16 (tourney team)
VTech - 9T / 3-4 / 14-6 / 77 (outside of bubble)
ND - 9T / 3-4 / 13-7 / 60 (bubble)
Cuse - 9T / 3-4 / 14-6 / 34 (bubble)
BC - 13th / 3-5 / 13-8 / 66 (outside of bubble)
Pitt - 15th / 0-8 / 8-13 / 154 (no shot)

B10:
Rutgers - 12th / 2-7 / 11-11 / 184 (no shot)

B12:
WVU - 2nd / 5-3 / 16-4 / 21 (tourney team)

What's most interesting is that the longest tenured BE schools are the ones struggling the most now that they've left. BC, Pitt, Syracuse and UConn clearly miss those regional rivalries much more than the others. They're not pulling as many kids out of the fertile recruiting areas around G'town, SHU, Nova and SJU that they were used to, and it's showing. #NoSympathyHere


Good point, although I'd modify it just a bit. Rather than longest tenured, I'd say the schools from the northeast corridor are struggling the most (albeit for the same reasons you cited). Schools just south of what I would call the northeast (Louisville, West Virginia and Va Tech), far south (Miami) and in the midwest (Cincy) do not rely upon recruiting in the northeast metros and therefore are largely unscathed.

It wouldn't surprise me if in the near future a segment of the Pitt fanbase sounds like those UConn fans that want to move to the BE. (the biggest difference of course is that Pitt actually has a pretty decent FB history)
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby Bill Marsh » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:57 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:FYI, current records of former BE programs:

AAC:
Cinn. - 1st Place / 7-0 / 18-2 / RPI: 23 (tourney team)
UConn - 5th / 4-3 / 11-9 / 76 (no shot)
USF - 12th / 1-7 / 8-13 / 265 (no shot)

ACC:
L'ville - 3rd / 5-2 / 15-5 / 17 (tourney team)
Miami - 6th / 4-3 / 15-4 / 16 (tourney team)
VTech - 9T / 3-4 / 14-6 / 77 (outside of bubble)
ND - 9T / 3-4 / 13-7 / 60 (bubble)
Cuse - 9T / 3-4 / 14-6 / 34 (bubble)
BC - 13th / 3-5 / 13-8 / 66 (outside of bubble)
Pitt - 15th / 0-8 / 8-13 / 154 (no shot)

B10:
Rutgers - 12th / 2-7 / 11-11 / 184 (no shot)

B12:
WVU - 2nd / 5-3 / 16-4 / 21 (tourney team)

What's most interesting is that the longest tenured BE schools are the ones struggling the most now that they've left. BC, Pitt, Syracuse and UConn clearly miss those regional rivalries much more than the others. They're not pulling as many kids out of the fertile recruiting areas around G'town, SHU, Nova and SJU that they were used to, and it's showing. #NoSympathyHere


One year snapshot in what is an unfinished season. Notre Dame is coming off 3 straight tournament appearances, advancing to the Elite 8 in 2 of them, their most successful run in a long time. Syracuse went to the Final 4 just 2 years ago.
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:31 am

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UConn Coach Kevin Ollie Releases Statement On NCAA Inquiry Before Resounding Loss To Temple - Hartford Courant - 11:40 PM, January 28, 2018
The Huskies played one of their worst games of the season and lost at Temple 85-57 on Sunday night.

Coach Kevin Ollie, in his first exposure to media since the news broke, tried to stave off post-game questions by issuing a pregame statement, which was passed out to reporters 40 minutes before tipoff.

“With regard to the inquiry directed at our men’s basketball program,” Ollie’s statement read, “I want to express that we will cooperate fully with NCAA as this process moves forward as we are committed to promoting an atmosphere of compliance with NCAA regulations.

“… As we head into the final weeks of the season, our total focus will be on helping our team improve and reach its highest potential. To that end, we have no further comment on this matter.”
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:51 am

Bill Marsh wrote:
One year snapshot in what is an unfinished season. Notre Dame is coming off 3 straight tournament appearances, advancing to the Elite 8 in 2 of them, their most successful run in a long time. Syracuse went to the Final 4 just 2 years ago.


This is a simple snapshot in time--nothing more. Not trying to extrapolate 2/3 of a season into a larger commentary. To ignore that Cuse, BC, Pitt and UConn have not been the same since realignment would be foolish as well.

So let's talk larger commentary about overall tourney seeding....

5 years before leaving the conference & the past 5 years (M = missed tourney):

Cuse:
5 yrs Prior - 4 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 3
Last 5 Yrs - 3 - M - 10 - M - bubble in '18

UConn:
Prior - M - 9 - 3 - M - 1
Last 5 Yrs. - 7 - M - 9 - M - out '18

Pitt:
Prior - 8 - M - 1 - 3 - 1
Last 5 Yrs. - 9 - M - 10 - M - out '18

BC:
Prior - 4 - 6 - M - 11 - 3
Last 5 Yrs. - M - M - M - M - outside bubble '18

I think this is a better measure of overall health of a program. March runs are their own animal. Take Cuse as an example in 2016. They were favored in each of their first 3 games of that tournament because of upsets in their bracket. The won one game that tourney as an underdog, against a conference foe that they knew well. FF aside Cuse actually struggled just to get into the tourney that year. So I wouldn't consider that a great all-time Cuse team.

Anyway, the numbers seem rather compelling about who were the BB "losers" in realignment. And to be honest, to this point you would have to add G'town to this conversation.
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Re: UConn notified they are under NCAA investigation

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:38 pm

IMO, the biggest factor in change of success for OBE programs is that today's style of BE (and the style of the ACC, B1G and Big 12) are simply different. More fouls are called. Different types of players are being recruited. The ACC is dominated by the Tobacco Road schools and they have always favored more of a finesse style of play with a more strict style of officiating. The old Big East let so much go on the floor that - normally - the toughest team on a given night would win (not the case today). It would have been hard for anybody (BC, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Louisville, etc.) to duplicate that style of play in a new conference.
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