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Providence and Depaul squeak in. Obviously Villanova UConn Marquette and Georgetown are shoe ins with National Championships. I doubt Creighton makes it. Unsure on Butler or Xavier. SJU will make it but god knows where given the epic fall from grace.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... nos-68-51/

I would think Xavier is in pretty safely. Should be 8 out of 11, maybe 9 with Butler.

kayako wrote:I would think Xavier is in pretty safely. Should be 8 out of 11, maybe 9 with Butler.

My only fear for X is that they were so bad prior to Pete Gillen and this list would have more time during the bad years. Plus when you see a program like LSU on there already with so many All Americans and Final Fours etc it strikes me that X might not have the history yet. Plus no extra points for sweet 16s really hurts X's overall resume here.

MUBoxer wrote:

kayako wrote:I would think Xavier is in pretty safely. Should be 8 out of 11, maybe 9 with Butler.

My only fear for X is that they were so bad prior to Pete Gillen and this list would have more time during the bad years. Plus when you see a program like LSU on there already with so many All Americans and Final Fours etc it strikes me that X might not have the history yet. Plus no extra points for sweet 16s really hurts X's overall resume here.

According to the methodology, "ancient" results are weighted evenly with more recent result.

Xavier was not "so bad prior to Pete Gillen" - Xavier beat Dayton in 1958 to win the NIT back when it was still considered to be relevant. There is no doubt a long drought existed for most of the 60's and 70's, but Xavier's overall body of work is fine.

Of his 13 categories, we''ll do well with wins and losses (in more recent time), have zero national championships or Final Four appearances, put up 3 Elite Eight appearances, post 28 NCAA Tournament bids, offer a healthy number of regular-season championships, submit the one NIT championship, have a healthy number of total weeks ranked and wins over ranked opponents, and have a respectable resume of NBA Draft picks.

The 1958 NIT Championship and the 3 E8's since 1990 probably provide enough juice to land them somewhere on this list.

These click bait lists are the type of things that make Nebraska football fans hard. They haven’t been good in 20 years and have frankly sucked terribly for a decade, but success from 70s-90s means they’ll rank high on something like this, which isn’t relevant at all in today’s game and doesn’t matter to recruits because they weren’t born during the successful years.

Fun for fans to see where their school is ranked but really not worth the click most of the time.

Xudash wrote:

MUBoxer wrote:

kayako wrote:I would think Xavier is in pretty safely. Should be 8 out of 11, maybe 9 with Butler.

My only fear for X is that they were so bad prior to Pete Gillen and this list would have more time during the bad years. Plus when you see a program like LSU on there already with so many All Americans and Final Fours etc it strikes me that X might not have the history yet. Plus no extra points for sweet 16s really hurts X's overall resume here.

According to the methodology, "ancient" results are weighted evenly with more recent result.

Xavier was not "so bad prior to Pete Gillen" - Xavier beat Dayton in 1958 to win the NIT back when it was still considered to be relevant. There is no doubt a long drought existed for most of the 60's and 70's, but Xavier's overall body of work is fine.

Of his 13 categories, we''ll do well with wins and losses (in more recent time), have zero national championships or Final Four appearances, put up 3 Elite Eight appearances, post 28 NCAA Tournament bids, offer a healthy number of regular-season championships, submit the one NIT championship, have a healthy number of total weeks ranked and wins over ranked opponents, and have a respectable resume of NBA Draft picks.

The 1958 NIT Championship and the 3 E8's since 1990 probably provide enough juice to land them somewhere on this list.

I must've missed the 58 NIT in my Wikipedia glance. You're right about the conference championships and bids overall. Just seeing LSU that low made me assume you'd get edged out. I suppose we'll see soon.

Omaha1 wrote:These click bait lists are the type of things that make Nebraska football fans hard. They haven’t been good in 20 years and have frankly sucked terribly for a decade, but success from 70s-90s means they’ll rank high on something like this, which isn’t relevant at all in today’s game and doesn’t matter to recruits because they weren’t born during the successful years.

Fun for fans to see where their school is ranked but really not worth the click most of the time.

I lol'd at the Nebraska reference b/c my GF's family are all insane huskers fans and it's so true. That being said, I work in analytics so I just enjoy seeing how various places try to weight different successes programs have had and what the final output is. That being said about recruits, UCLA is still always given more love than they deserve because of the old Wooden success and I guess maybe the three howland years.

Xavier's in here...#46.

In other news, there doesn't appear to be any points for "should have a national championship" lol

Hall2012 wrote:Xavier's in here...#46.

In other news, there doesn't appear to be any points for "should have a national championship" lol

That ranking is gonna really tick off Field house Flyer

Hall2012 wrote:Xavier's in here...#46.

In other news, there doesn't appear to be any points for "should have a national championship" lol

So, we're behind St. Joe's and Murray State. No problem.

He'll have 4 BE teams in top 25. Uconn and Nova should be in the 6-10 range...