old BE vs nBE?

[kayako]

Apparently uconn AD is trying

https://www.nhregister.com/sports/jeffjacobs/article/Jeff-Jacobs-Creativity-vigilance-needed-at-13343497.php

“Let’s go get five teams that used to be in the Big East, get five currently in the Big East and let’s play,” Benedict said

Personally I'd hang up the phone.

[Hall2012]

It sounds like he wants this to be an exempt tourney. Except with 5 Big East teams in the same exempt tourney, it would guarantee "non-conference" games between conference oppoenents, which is less than ideal.

[GoldenWarrior11]

UConn's future OOC scheduling is in big trouble in men's basketball. With the other power conferences going to 20 games, it is harder and harder for UConn (in the AAC) to scheduling quality home/home matchups. They still have Villanova for two upcoming matchups, but finish with Arizona this year. With the Big East and Big 12 getting a scheduling alliance, and the AAC being locked out of a major scheduling alliance, UConn needs to be creative in how it can foster a strong OOC schedule, especially with the awful bottom of the AAC that they will need to be playing each year.

I'm not shocked at all that Benedict is having ongoing discussions with Big East contacts. This is just another example of smoke regarding UConn and the Big East. UConn Athletics is really backed into a corner. They will be back in the Big East by our next TV deal, which will give them more money for Olympic sports, give the Big East more annual payouts to each of its membership and give the Big East more exposure, viewership and attendance figures long-term.

[Hall2012]

Of course the other possible format for this sort of event would be the "challenge" format, but if history is any indication that wouldn't be very competitive. I could be missing something, but I have current Big East teams at 27-11 against old Big East teams since realignment (excluding BC, VT, and Miami since they left significantly earlier - adding them would've just made the BE more dominant).


By team:

Butler: 2-1
Creighton: 1-0
DePaul - 0-2
Georgetown: 4-2
Marquette: 0-1
Providence: 1-0
Seton Hall: 7-1 (lot of beating up on Rutgers and USF)
St. John's: 4-1
Xavier: 4-1
Villanova: 4-2

[kayako]

It sounds like he wants this to be an exempt tourney. Except with 5 Big East teams in the same exempt tourney, it would guarantee "non-conference" games between conference oppoenents, which is less than ideal.

I read it as just getting 10 or so ex-oBE teams together for one day event, not a tournament. I know there are similar events like CBS classic, champions classic, crossroads, etc, but not aware of one involving more than 4 schools.

[kayako]

UConn's future OOC scheduling is in big trouble in men's basketball. With the other power conferences going to 20 games, it is harder and harder for UConn (in the AAC) to scheduling quality home/home matchups. They still have Villanova for two upcoming matchups, but finish with Arizona this year.

I hate that Nova gave them 3 games, but I've read that an ongoing series with Providence is being worked on.

[Edrick]

It’s kind of sad really. UConn is so desperate for a lifeline from somewhere.

The Big East having deals with the Big 12 and Big 10 and no room is going to be problematic though.

I don’t know why it’s taken so long for UConn to figure out that no high major conference is going to come to the table with the AAC as partners. It’s simple. Get out or look to the A10 & MWC. Those are the two options. At some point, you have to know who you are.

[Hall2012]

It sounds like he wants this to be an exempt tourney. Except with 5 Big East teams in the same exempt tourney, it would guarantee "non-conference" games between conference oppoenents, which is less than ideal.

I read it as just getting 10 or so ex-oBE teams together for one day event, not a tournament. I know there are similar events like CBS classic, champions classic, crossroads, etc, but not aware of one involving more than 4 schools.

That makes more sense, but i didn't think it's what he meant because in the article he was comparing it to things like Maui and PK80.

[stever20]

UConn's future OOC scheduling is in big trouble in men's basketball. With the other power conferences going to 20 games, it is harder and harder for UConn (in the AAC) to scheduling quality home/home matchups. They still have Villanova for two upcoming matchups, but finish with Arizona this year. With the Big East and Big 12 getting a scheduling alliance, and the AAC being locked out of a major scheduling alliance, UConn needs to be creative in how it can foster a strong OOC schedule, especially with the awful bottom of the AAC that they will need to be playing each year.

I'm not shocked at all that Benedict is having ongoing discussions with Big East contacts. This is just another example of smoke regarding UConn and the Big East. UConn Athletics is really backed into a corner. They will be back in the Big East by our next TV deal, which will give them more money for Olympic sports, give the Big East more annual payouts to each of its membership and give the Big East more exposure, viewership and attendance figures long-term.

UConn has no problems getting into the big Exempt tournaments. They are in Charleston next year with - Florida, Xavier, Miami, Penn State, Saint Joseph's, Towson, and Missouri State. So right there is up to 22 games. That is a big part of the OOC scheduling as it takes at least 2 quality games. Then add Villanova. That's 23 games with 3 quality OOC games. Add 1-2 more good games and they're fine.... They always seem to find their way to MSG for a good OOC game. Also, the scheduling OOC doesn't have to be home and home.

Also while you say bottom of AAC- it's no guarantee that it would be a lot of games. They have 6 sub 100 KP teams. 1 of them is UConn. Well of the other 5- they only play 7 games vs those 5 teams. They have 12 of their conference games as tier 1 or 2 by Ken Pom.

[scoscox]

I hate that Nova gave them 3 games, but I've read that an ongoing series with Providence is being worked on.

It bothers me a little bit as well that nova and now providence are giving them games