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DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:47 am
by stever20
So a season and a third into their tenure- which coach do you think has done better so far- Mullin or Leitao?

Leitao 16-26 at DePaul
Mullin 13-31 at St John's

close games- 1-10 points
L:10-7
M:6-16

I think looking at it- you'd have to give it to Leitao.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:14 am
by hoyahooligan
stever20 wrote:So a season and a third into their tenure- which coach do you think has done better so far- Mullin or Leitao?

Leitao 16-26 at DePaul
Mullin 13-31 at St John's

close games- 1-10 points
L:10-7
M:6-16

I think looking at it- you'd have to give it to Leitao.


Well sure but Leitao is an experienced coach who has been doing this for a long time. Of course he's a better coach.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:21 am
by SJHooper
DePaul is still in a different spot. As terrible as things are at SJ right now, we were ranked #15 just a few short years ago in 2014 I think, #18 in 2011, and have recruited well. We also have 3 very recent seasons of 20+ wins. If you want to look at programs as a whole in terms of success, you can make the comparison, but at least recently, we have shown we can be good. For us, it's a head coaching problem. That can be fixed and I hope Mullin leaves after this year so Hurley or long-shot Donovan can come. I'd be much more patient with a guy like Hurley knowing that there aren't many better basketball minds out there. The guy's father is a coaching legend and he knows what he's doing. My only concern if Hurley came is if we lost Matt A and our recruiting took a big hit. Not sure if Hurley can recruit well by himself.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:13 pm
by Hall2012
SJHooper wrote:DePaul is still in a different spot. As terrible as things are at SJ right now, we were ranked #15 just a few short years ago in 2014 I think, #18 in 2011, and have recruited well. We also have 3 very recent seasons of 20+ wins. If you want to look at programs as a whole in terms of success, you can make the comparison, but at least recently, we have shown we can be good. For us, it's a head coaching problem. That can be fixed and I hope Mullin leaves after this year so Hurley or long-shot Donovan can come. I'd be much more patient with a guy like Hurley knowing that there aren't many better basketball minds out there. The guy's father is a coaching legend and he knows what he's doing. My only concern if Hurley came is if we lost Matt A and our recruiting took a big hit. Not sure if Hurley can recruit well by himself.


I hope Mullin hangs around just long enough for Dan Hurley to take a job elsewhere. As funny as it would be to see St. John's crawling to a Jersey guy/Seton Hall player to save their program after their GOAT failed, I'm afraid of what Hurley could do with a high major program in the NY-Metro area. With Willard's job seemingly safe for the time being, I hope he follows his brother out west or something.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 pm
by SJHooper
Hall2012 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:DePaul is still in a different spot. As terrible as things are at SJ right now, we were ranked #15 just a few short years ago in 2014 I think, #18 in 2011, and have recruited well. We also have 3 very recent seasons of 20+ wins. If you want to look at programs as a whole in terms of success, you can make the comparison, but at least recently, we have shown we can be good. For us, it's a head coaching problem. That can be fixed and I hope Mullin leaves after this year so Hurley or long-shot Donovan can come. I'd be much more patient with a guy like Hurley knowing that there aren't many better basketball minds out there. The guy's father is a coaching legend and he knows what he's doing. My only concern if Hurley came is if we lost Matt A and our recruiting took a big hit. Not sure if Hurley can recruit well by himself.


I hope Mullin hangs around just long enough for Dan Hurley to take a job elsewhere. As funny as it would be to see St. John's crawling to a Jersey guy/Seton Hall player to save their program after their GOAT failed, I'm afraid of what Hurley could do with a high major program in the NY-Metro area. With Willard's job seemingly safe for the time being, I hope he follows his brother out west or something.


Be very afraid, my friend :twisted: ...Donovan still my #1 choice though. If he came I would bet my BMW that he would turn us around. He is someone you can be patient with and it makes sense. He is the entire package: recruiting, youth (relatively), experience at the highest level, championships, locally grown, etc. I really hope he misses college, because he would be a legend here.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:39 pm
by Hall2012
I agree Donovan's a great coach. Give him 4 years and I bet he could even have DePaul on the bubble, if not in the dance.

Re: DePaul/St John's

PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:54 pm
by friars321
For those who think Hurley would automatically turn that program around, you should take a look at the URI message board.
Most of the fans want him FIRED so that the school can move on. During the summer he was a hot name- has the pedigree, but if you really examine his career- no major success.
I think he has proven he can recruit, acquire talent, and coach defense- but he hasn't proven he can win consistently.
The jury is still out, and maybe they can turn it around- but that team has a lot of talent but they are playing like a middle of the pack A-10 team.
If they under achieve this year- I would compare Hurley more to a Lavin than a savior.
Not to mention is would immediately become the most hated coach in the BE because of his on court antics and childish behavior.