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Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:38 am
by Hoya Hoya Hoya
http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/fs1-mor ... ormat.html

"...and what about FS1’s history-making week which gave the network its highest-ratings and beat ESPN for the first time in all dayparts?

We had the highest single day in FS1 history. Then you have the announcement we had the highest week in FS1 history. We have internal goals that we set, that are on backs of napkins for Jamie and myself. We’re starting to have to create new ones. …My goal originally was to create habit-forming programming. We didn’t have that when we got here. There were some really quality shows. But there wasn’t a full slate of programming. We do know what the sports fans want. They want people, and talent, who are incisive and entertaining. Now we’re two puzzle pieces away from having that lineup that we desire in the daypart."

But remember people FS1 has no shot going against ESPN and conferences like the Big East/Big 10 are dumb for not having all of their content on ESPN. :coffee3:

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:44 am
by stever20
Hoya Hoya Hoya wrote:http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/fs1-morning-show-wont-be-highlight-driven-still-has-fluid-format.html

"...and what about FS1’s history-making week which gave the network its highest-ratings and beat ESPN for the first time in all dayparts?

We had the highest single day in FS1 history. Then you have the announcement we had the highest week in FS1 history. We have internal goals that we set, that are on backs of napkins for Jamie and myself. We’re starting to have to create new ones. …My goal originally was to create habit-forming programming. We didn’t have that when we got here. There were some really quality shows. But there wasn’t a full slate of programming. We do know what the sports fans want. They want people, and talent, who are incisive and entertaining. Now we’re two puzzle pieces away from having that lineup that we desire in the daypart."

But remember people FS1 has no shot going against ESPN and conferences like the Big East/Big 10 are dumb for not having all of their content on ESPN. :coffee3:


The Big East was dumb to not have ESPN with anything.

Big Ten was smart as they have Fox with stuff- but still will have a major presence on ESPN as well. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

The one thing that will be interesting is in a few years. the CBS deal with Fox expires. I do wonder if the Big East will push for that sublicensing deal to go to ESPN instead of CBS. And I would have to think that ESPN would be a willing partner quite frankly.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:02 am
by DudeAnon
I only have my anecdotal evidence, but I think the strategy is definitely working. I am seeing more people tweet about Undisputed and The Herd than I expected. Honestly, the only thing really missing is more live content (wish they got some of the NBA) and getting rid of Fox Sports Live.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:26 am
by stever20
DudeAnon wrote:I only have my anecdotal evidence, but I think the strategy is definitely working. I am seeing more people tweet about Undisputed and The Herd than I expected. Honestly, the only thing really missing is more live content (wish they got some of the NBA) and getting rid of Fox Sports Live.

Yeah, I think the NBA part was the one thing that they were expecting to get when they were starting that didn't come to fruition. I think they really wanted NBA and Big Ten...

I just wonder how long FSL goes. I mean Wednesday night it got like 47k viewers. The only time it gets any semblance of ratings is when there's something before it. Absolutely no one is turning on FS1 to watch their crap.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:35 am
by Jet915
stever20 wrote:
DudeAnon wrote:I only have my anecdotal evidence, but I think the strategy is definitely working. I am seeing more people tweet about Undisputed and The Herd than I expected. Honestly, the only thing really missing is more live content (wish they got some of the NBA) and getting rid of Fox Sports Live.

Yeah, I think the NBA part was the one thing that they were expecting to get when they were starting that didn't come to fruition. I think they really wanted NBA and Big Ten...

I just wonder how long FSL goes. I mean Wednesday night it got like 47k viewers. The only time it gets any semblance of ratings is when there's something before it. Absolutely no one is turning on FS1 to watch their crap.


My guess is FSL will be around until Jay and Dan's contract expires...

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:39 am
by Jet915
Maybe give Katie Nolan a live morning show or give it to Pete Rose and AROD.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:58 am
by billyjack
stever20 wrote:
Hoya Hoya Hoya wrote:http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/fs1-morning-show-wont-be-highlight-driven-still-has-fluid-format.html

"...and what about FS1’s history-making week which gave the network its highest-ratings and beat ESPN for the first time in all dayparts?

We had the highest single day in FS1 history. Then you have the announcement we had the highest week in FS1 history. We have internal goals that we set, that are on backs of napkins for Jamie and myself. We’re starting to have to create new ones. …My goal originally was to create habit-forming programming. We didn’t have that when we got here. There were some really quality shows. But there wasn’t a full slate of programming. We do know what the sports fans want. They want people, and talent, who are incisive and entertaining. Now we’re two puzzle pieces away from having that lineup that we desire in the daypart."

But remember people FS1 has no shot going against ESPN and conferences like the Big East/Big 10 are dumb for not having all of their content on ESPN. :coffee3:


The Big East was dumb to not have ESPN with anything.

Big Ten was smart as they have Fox with stuff- but still will have a major presence on ESPN as well. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

The one thing that will be interesting is in a few years. the CBS deal with Fox expires. I do wonder if the Big East will push for that sublicensing deal to go to ESPN instead of CBS. And I would have to think that ESPN would be a willing partner quite frankly.


We are so far beyond caring about ESPN... I never watch them anymore... can't believe there is still a doubt... it'd be like supporting horse and buggy transportation on interstates in 2016 or zeppelin cross-Atlantic flights.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:00 pm
by billyjack
Jet915 wrote:Maybe give Katie Nolan a live morning show or give it to Pete Rose and AROD.


I agree with featuring each of these 3 on FS1.

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:04 pm
by DudeAnon
stever20 wrote:
Hoya Hoya Hoya wrote:http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/fs1-morning-show-wont-be-highlight-driven-still-has-fluid-format.html

"...and what about FS1’s history-making week which gave the network its highest-ratings and beat ESPN for the first time in all dayparts?

We had the highest single day in FS1 history. Then you have the announcement we had the highest week in FS1 history. We have internal goals that we set, that are on backs of napkins for Jamie and myself. We’re starting to have to create new ones. …My goal originally was to create habit-forming programming. We didn’t have that when we got here. There were some really quality shows. But there wasn’t a full slate of programming. We do know what the sports fans want. They want people, and talent, who are incisive and entertaining. Now we’re two puzzle pieces away from having that lineup that we desire in the daypart."

But remember people FS1 has no shot going against ESPN and conferences like the Big East/Big 10 are dumb for not having all of their content on ESPN. :coffee3:


The Big East was dumb to not have ESPN with anything.

Big Ten was smart as they have Fox with stuff- but still will have a major presence on ESPN as well. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

The one thing that will be interesting is in a few years. the CBS deal with Fox expires. I do wonder if the Big East will push for that sublicensing deal to go to ESPN instead of CBS. And I would have to think that ESPN would be a willing partner quite frankly.


We don't know if The Big East had that option. Its likely that Fox offered the amount of money they did only because we became and exclusive partner. Remember, ESPN probably lowballed us like crazy. They gave the AAC (which many thought would be comparable to the NBE) only 2 million a year for football & basketball!

Re: Embrace Debate Working For FS1

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:10 pm
by stever20
You might not care about ESPN, but the casual fans absolutely do care about ESPN.

To act like having the CBSSN package on ESPN wouldn't help the Big East is pretty dumb IMO. You have to remember that the number of those games will likely increase even more next year when Big Ten is on board. ESPN coverage would help the Big East out considerably.