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2016-2017 data for KenPom is now available.

1. Duke
2. Villanova
3. Kansas
4. Kentucky
5. North Carolina
6. Oregon
7. Virginia
8. Wisconsin
9. Louisville
10. Arizona
11. Xavier
12. Syracuse
13. Ohio State
14. Michigan State
15. Purdue
16. Indiana
17. Florida
18. Saint Mary's
19. Butler
20. West Virginia
21. UCLA
22. Gonzaga
23. Clemson
24. Miami (FL)
25. Baylor

29. Georgetown
32. Creighton
38. Seton Hall
47. Marquette
63. Providence
108. St. John's
177. DePaul

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Regular Season Records:
1. Villanova 25-4 (15-3)
2. Xavier 20-9 (12-6)
3t. Butler 19-10 (10-8)
3t. Creighton 19-10 (10-8).
3t. Georgetown 18-11 (10-8)
6t. Marquette 18-11 (9-9)
6t. Seton Hall 17-11 (9-9)
8. Providence 16-14 (7-11)
9. St. John's 12-17 (5-13)
10. DePaul 11-19 (3-15)

Get Marquette and Seton Hall one more conference win each and a win or two in the BET and you got yourself 7 BEast teams in the dance.

TAMU Eagle wrote:Get Marquette and Seton Hall one more conference win each and a win or two in the BET and you got yourself 7 BEast teams in the dance.

That's not realistic though. 6th place team in the 10 team Big East(both this incarnation and before)- has never finished with a winning record.

It'd be far more likely that 1 of Butler, Creighton or Georgetown would finish with a fewer win and finish at 9-9 quite frankly. I'd be really surprised if St John's finishes for instance with only 5 conference wins. The teams most likely to pay for that would be Butler, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, and Seton Hall.

stever20 wrote:

TAMU Eagle wrote:Get Marquette and Seton Hall one more conference win each and a win or two in the BET and you got yourself 7 BEast teams in the dance.

That's not realistic though. 6th place team in the 10 team Big East(both this incarnation and before)- has never finished with a winning record.

It'd be far more likely that 1 of Butler, Creighton or Georgetown would finish with a fewer win and finish at 9-9 quite frankly. I'd be really surprised if St John's finishes for instance with only 5 conference wins. The teams most likely to pay for that would be Butler, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, and Seton Hall.

The likelihood of it happening has nothing to do with the accuracy of TAMU's post.

a far more likely route to 7 teams would be an extra win or 2 in the OOC portion. Like Seton Hall get 2 more wins in the MTE. Marquette with a win in their extra game. (have to remember- these records do not include those in the equation).

The thing with this projection is that it's really best case scenario on what w/l records in conference play would be to get a lot of teams in. You look at the 3-7 and you aren't going to get any better than that for the conference.

stever20 wrote:

TAMU Eagle wrote:Get Marquette and Seton Hall one more conference win each and a win or two in the BET and you got yourself 7 BEast teams in the dance.

That's not realistic though. 6th place team in the 10 team Big East(both this incarnation and before)- has never finished with a winning record.

It'd be far more likely that 1 of Butler, Creighton or Georgetown would finish with a fewer win and finish at 9-9 quite frankly. I'd be really surprised if St John's finishes for instance with only 5 conference wins. The teams most likely to pay for that would be Butler, Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette, and Seton Hall.

Oh I agree it's not likely, but it would be nice. I also think the gap between Marquette and Providence is actually a little bigger than KP does. Would not surprise me if the bottom three ended up with 12 conference wins between them. But St. Johns is young and talented and Cooley is a magician, so would not surprise me if they grabbed a few unexpected wins.