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Preseason Poll:
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/7 ... 9530328065

Preseason Player of the Year:
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/7 ... 5751742464

Preseason Freshman of the Year:
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/7 ... 0336374785

Preseason All-Big East 1st Team:
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/7 ... 6040637440

So-
1 Villanova 81(unanimous)
2 Xavier 69
3 Creighton 64
4 Georgetown/Seton Hall 53
6 Butler 44
7 Marquette 35
8 St John's 21
9 Providence 18
10 DePaul 12

looks like Xavier and Creighton got all but 3 votes for 2nd/3rd.

Pretty close to our poll on here quite frankly.

2016-17 Preseason Coaches’ Poll, Pts.

1.Villanova (9) 81
2.Xavier (1) 69
3.Creighton 64
4.Georgetown 53
5.Seton Hall 53
6.Butler 44
7.Marquette 35
8.St. John’s 21
9.Providence 18
10.DePaul 12


(First-place votes in parentheses)

BIG EAST Preseason Player of the Year

Josh Hart, Villanova, G, Sr., 6-5, 215, Silver Spring, Md.

BIG EAST Preseason Freshman of the Year

Shamorie Ponds, St. John’s, G, Fr., 6-1, 165, Brooklyn, N.Y.

BIG EAST Preseason All-BIG EAST First Team

Kelan Martin, Butler, F, Jr., 6-7, 220, Louisville, Ky.

Maurice Watson Jr., Creighton, G, Sr., 5-10, 175, Philadelphia, Pa.

Kris Jenkins, Villanova, F, Sr., 6-6, 235, Upper Marlboro, Md.

Trevon Bluiett, Xavier, G, Jr., 6-6, 205, Indianapolis, Ind.

Edmond Sumner, Xavier, G, So., 6-6, 183, Detroit, Mich.


BIG EAST Preseason All-BIG EAST Second Team

Billy Garrett, Jr., DePaul, G, Sr., 6-6, 210, Chicago, Ill.

Isaac Copeland, Georgetown, F, Jr., 6-9, 220, Raleigh, N.C.

Luke Fischer, Marquette, C, Sr., 6-11, 250, Germantown, Wis.

Khadeen Carrington, Seton Hall, G, Jr., 6-4, 195, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Angel Delgado, Seton Hall, F, Jr., 6-10, 240, Bajos De Haina, Dominican Republic


Preseason All-BIG EAST Honorable Mention

Marcus Foster, Creighton, G, Jr., 6-3, 210, Wichita Falls, Texas

L.J. Peak, Georgetown, F, Jr., 6-5, 215, Gaffney, S.C.

Jalen Brunson, Villanova, G, So., 6-2, 190, Lincolnshire, Ill.

ArmyVet wrote:BIG EAST Preseason All-BIG EAST Second Team

Billy Garrett, Jr., DePaul, G, Sr., 6-6, 210, Chicago, Ill.

Isaac Copeland, Georgetown, F, Jr., 6-9, 220, Raleigh, N.C.

Luke Fischer, Marquette, C, Sr., 6-11, 250, Germantown, Wis.

Khadeen Carrington, Seton Hall, G, Jr., 6-4, 195, Brooklyn, N.Y.

Angel Delgado, Seton Hall, F, Jr., 6-10, 240, Bajos De Haina, Dominican Republic

Fischer doesn't do much for me. I think Cheatham is more worthy of that list than him. Maybe he's getting the senior treatment.

Maybe it's because I don't watch DePaul too much but I don't see it in Garrett Jr. He's a good play but I don't think he's second team Big East.

Found the preseason poll from last year for those interested...

1. Villanova (9) 81pts
2. Georgetown (1) 70pts
3. Butler (1) 67pts
4. Xavier 55pts
5. Providence 45pts
6. Marquette 44pts
7. Seton Hall 27pts
8. DePaul 25pts
9. Creighton 23pts
10. St. John's 13pts

Here's how the league finished...

1. Villanova (16-2)
2. Xavier (14-4)
3. Seton Hall (12-6)
t4. Butler (10-8)
t4. Providence (10-8)
6. Creighton (9-9)
7. Marquette (8-10)
8. Georgetown (7-11)
9. DePaul (3-15)
10. St. John's (1-17)

Surprised that X was not a unanimous or close to unanimous 2nd place preaseason pick. If my math is right they are 4 pts below a possible max of 73. I guess either 4 coaches had Creighton ahead of them or maybe one or two had them out of the top 3. I don't see that with what they have coming back.

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Surprised that X was not a unanimous or close to unanimous 2nd place preaseason pick. If my math is right they are 4 pts below a possible max of 73. I guess either 4 coaches had Creighton ahead of them or maybe one or two had them out of the top 3. I don't see that with what they have coming back.

from what I can tell math wise a unanimous 2 would get 73 votes. Unanimous 3 would get 63 votes.

So for Xavier and Creighton combined, they got 133 of 136 possible votes. Probably some had Georgetown or Seton Hall in 3rd over Creighton(but 4 having Creighton over Xavier).

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Surprised that X was not a unanimous or close to unanimous 2nd place preaseason pick. If my math is right they are 4 pts below a possible max of 73. I guess either 4 coaches had Creighton ahead of them or maybe one or two had them out of the top 3. I don't see that with what they have coming back.

I wonder how much Myles Davis played into that.