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FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:13 pm
by MUPanther
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basket ... tch-012216

LAST FOUR IN: Seton Hall, Florida State, Syracuse, UCLA
FIRST FOUR OUT: Monmouth, George Washington, Vanderbilt, Clemson
NEXT FOUR OUT: Cincinnati, Stanford, Alabama, St. Joe’s

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:15 pm
by gtmoBlue

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:39 pm
by admin

I think we should just let Ken make the bracket this year.

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:52 pm
by jfan
I wish he would! Honestly, I don't see how in the world Creighton is a 10 seed. We need to beat more top 50 teams. I am absolutely confident in saying that the actual committee wouldn't have us in right now. I also think that we can play our way in and I think we have been playing well enough lately to do that. (sorry NovaBall) Way to early to say though!

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:44 pm
by MUPanther
admin wrote:

I think we should just let Ken make the bracket this year.

Really? Providence a 12 seed

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:52 pm
by stever20
MUPanther wrote:
admin wrote:

I think we should just let Ken make the bracket this year.

Really? Providence a 12 seed


PC is only #46 in Ken Pom. Even in RPI only #25. They are one that I really think if this was selection Sunday folks would be pretty surprised/disappointed in their seeding. Right now Bracket Matrix has them as a 6 seed.

The only thing that could help them out is a few of their close wins were w/o Dunn- by that I mean that the committee would view those as kind of fluky close wins and thus their Ken Pom Rating(which was dinged by those 2 games- went from like 41 up to 49 in Dunn's absence) was hurt. So that could help them some.

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:29 am
by MUPanther
Committee doesn't use KenPom

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:40 am
by stever20
MUPanther wrote:Committee doesn't use KenPom


They said last year they did.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt- ... 20578.html

These common-sense changes aren’t nearly as significant, though, as the committee’s increasing willingness to move away from the simple but inevitably flawed RPI to evaluate teams. Barnes acknowledged on Selection Sunday that the committee looked beyond RPI in deciding to leave Temple and Colorado State out of the field, but this week confirmed the use of such metrics as Ken Pomeroy’s and Jeff Sagarin’s efficiency ratings was even more extensive than Barnes described that day in March.

“More this year than any prior year, we looked at other systems when there were gaps and inconsistencies in the RPI,” Barnes said. “We talked more about it, how the RPI doesn’t tell the whole story.”

So to say they don't use Ken Pom isn't really all that accurate. They used it much more last year- and don't really see them moving back now.

Re: FOX Bracket

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:55 am
by GumbyDamnit!
PC. Yeah terrible resume.' I mean they only beat Arizona on a neutral court, and Butler at Hinkle. They SHOULD be a 12. :roll: