Is Homogeneity Of Membership Good Or Bad?

[scoscox]

Pomeroy Comference Strength 2017-2018

1. B12, 2. BE, 3. SEC, 4. ACC, 5. B10, 6. P12, 7. AAC, 8. MW, 9. A10 10. MVC

A-10 weak.

For the upcoming season? I love Ken's work and he's a really smart guy, but I think it's silly to put stock into any of that before the carousel of player movement stops.

Let's wait until games are actually played in 7 months time before declaring any conference strong or weak.

The A-10 is not moving any higher than 8th regardless.

[stever20]

Pomeroy Comference Strength 2017-2018

1. B12, 2. BE, 3. SEC, 4. ACC, 5. B10, 6. P12, 7. AAC, 8. MW, 9. A10 10. MVC

A-10 weak.

For the upcoming season? I love Ken's work and he's a really smart guy, but I think it's silly to put stock into any of that before the carousel of player movement stops.

Let's wait until games are actually played in 7 months time before declaring any conference strong or weak.

The A-10 is not moving any higher than 8th regardless.

Yeah, 8th would seem to be the A10's ceiling right now. That's where they were this year in Ken Pom- and they were closer to #10 than they were #7. And since the end of the season lost the coach at Dayton. The AAC has clearly passed the A10 right now, and frankly not really all that close.

[Sactowndog]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

[Hoya Hoya Hoya]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

Once again, the ONLY reason to expand is if UCONN suddenly gives up football and wants to come back home. That's not going to happen.

also LOL at adding WSU/VCU making a difference in anything expect destroying the RR

[stever20]

lol at folks who think the RR is such a sacred cow that is untouchable. 2 things- 1 I don't think the presidents don't think it is, and 2- I don't think Fox thinks it is.

You better believe they will take note of what happens with the AAC. If the AAC starts getting a lot more bids than they have been due to not having close to a round robin, they will take note.

[Bill Marsh]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

Excellent post.

I don't know if anyone clicked on this link, but it really tells the story of the problem that needs to be addressed. As we e ter year 5 of the Fox TV contract, the conference can't just keep its head buried in the sand. From that link, here are the ratings of 4 conference tournament finals:

2.3 - Big 12
1.3 - Mountain West
1.2 - AmericN
0.7 - Big East

The details are in Sactown Dog's link.

[Hall2012]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

And I'm sure having VCU and Wichita State in the conference would have made those ratings sooooo much better

[EMT]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

Excellent post.

I don't know if anyone clicked on this link, but it really tells the story of the problem that needs to be addressed. As we e ter year 5 of the Fox TV contract, the conference can't just keep its head buried in the sand. From that link, here are the ratings of 4 conference tournament finals:

2.3 - Big 12
1.3 - Mountain West
1.2 - AmericN
0.7 - Big East

The details are in Sactown Dog's link.

This is apples to oranges without knowing Fox's expectations with the conference. FS1 gets trounced by basically everything from ESPN. The comparison is BE vs what other programming they would have to replace it. Do we get the same contract as the first one? Probably not. Does Fox bid more than ESPN for the next contract? Probably. ESPN doesn't (currently) need the content. Most Mountain West and AAC games are probably on WatchESPN.

[Sactowndog]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

Excellent post.

I don't know if anyone clicked on this link, but it really tells the story of the problem that needs to be addressed. As we e ter year 5 of the Fox TV contract, the conference can't just keep its head buried in the sand. From that link, here are the ratings of 4 conference tournament finals:

2.3 - Big 12
1.3 - Mountain West
1.2 - AmericN
0.7 - Big East

The details are in Sactown Dog's link.

This is apples to oranges without knowing Fox's expectations with the conference. FS1 gets trounced by basically everything from ESPN. The comparison is BE vs what other programming they would have to replace it. Do we get the same contract as the first one? Probably not. Does Fox bid more than ESPN for the next contract? Probably. ESPN doesn't (currently) need the content. Most Mountain West and AAC games are probably on WatchESPN.

The Big East game was on Fox OTA which is an Apples to Apples comparison to ESPN. If fact, it should be better because it is OTA.

Villanova-Creighton scored a 0.7 final rating and 1.1 million viewers in Saturday’s Big East Tournament final on FOX, down 22% in ratings and 21% in viewership from Seton Hall-Villanova last year (0.9, 1.4M). The Wildcats’ win was beaten head-to-head by Big 12 final on ESPN (2.3M) and the Mountain West title game on CBS (1.3M). It also earned a smaller audience than the Cincinnati-SMU American Athletic final (a.k.a. the “old Big East”) the following day on ESPN (1.2M).

[Sactowndog]

This link is why homogeneity is bad....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2017/03 ... iewership/

You can't maintain top 5 performance with 9-10 level ratings. You simply won't have the money to maintain your coaches and facilities. Not adding Wichita State/VCU was a massive failure of vision when the league had a chance to add them as a pair. I am not a Wichita fan and I don't know if we could poach them from the AAC but it will be seen in the future as a major missed opportunity.

And I'm sure having VCU and Wichita State in the conference would have made those ratings sooooo much better

In fact they would. The current brand identity relates to a very narrow section of the population. That brand identity is tied closely to the homogeneity of the conference. Add two or even four top basketball only schools that aren't the current 'institutional fit" and you start to change the brand identity. That new brand identity would appeal to a much broader segment of the population.

Or you can chose to do nothing to address the issue and find yourselves in deep water 5-7 years down the road. Each data point just further reinforces the problem is significant. The conference Presidents, Commissioner and Fan continue to ignore it and pretend nothing can be done which is absolutely false.