Selection Sunday Discussion

[stever20]

one thing, it does feel to some degree like this year is a turning point in the battle between the AAC and the A10. AAC getting 4 in- 3 of them easily while the A10 only gets 3 in- 1st time that's happened.

Dayton was #26 this year at 25-7
St Joe's was #32 this year at 27-7
but then....
Cincy was #35 this year at 22-9
UConn was #36 this year at 24-10
Temple was #38 this year at 21-11
VCU was #40 this year at 24-10
and Tulsa gets in over St Bonnies...

So Temple wins 6 fewer games, but is only 6 spots behind St Joe's.

The question will be is this a 1 year blip, or is it the start of a trend....

The thing is I think the F5 and BE feel like the AAC is more like them than the A10 is quite frankly....

interested to get folks thoughts here on this....

C'mon Steven....you know good and well the A10 was better this year....again. Tulsa is a complete joke to get in this thing while SBU has the 2nd highest RPI to never get an invite. If you an ounce of basketball knowledge in your head and any integrity you'll admit the A10 should have had 4 in this; and Tulsa (in 0/57 brackets on bracket matrix) should have been left out. It's not a trend; it's utter insanity and a pay off from a committee member to Tulsa.

It's not just Tulsa. look at the seeds. Dayton had 2 fewer losses than Cincy did and only got 9 spots higher? St Joe's as tourney champ had 3 fewer losses than UConn and only got 4 spots higher? Temple had 1 more loss than VCU and got 2 spots higher? You can not say that the committee respected the A10 better than the AAC at all whatsoever...... Because they obviously didn't.

Also regarding the RPI- it's obvious the committee doesn't look at it anywhere near as much as they used to. I mean #72 Syracuse not only made it but made it not in the FF. That's the clearest thing out there..... edit... Syracuse is the lowest RPI team ever to make the tourney at large....

[Flyer75]

one thing, it does feel to some degree like this year is a turning point in the battle between the AAC and the A10. AAC getting 4 in- 3 of them easily while the A10 only gets 3 in- 1st time that's happened.

Dayton was #26 this year at 25-7
St Joe's was #32 this year at 27-7
but then....
Cincy was #35 this year at 22-9
UConn was #36 this year at 24-10
Temple was #38 this year at 21-11
VCU was #40 this year at 24-10
and Tulsa gets in over St Bonnies...

So Temple wins 6 fewer games, but is only 6 spots behind St Joe's.

The question will be is this a 1 year blip, or is it the start of a trend....

The thing is I think the F5 and BE feel like the AAC is more like them than the A10 is quite frankly....

interested to get folks thoughts here on this....

C'mon Steven....you know good and well the A10 was better this year....again. Tulsa is a complete joke to get in this thing while SBU has the 2nd highest RPI to never get an invite. If you an ounce of basketball knowledge in your head and any integrity you'll admit the A10 should have had 4 in this; and Tulsa (in 0/57 brackets on bracket matrix) should have been left out. It's not a trend; it's utter insanity and a pay off from a committee member to Tulsa.

It's not just Tulsa. look at the seeds. Dayton had 2 fewer losses than Cincy did and only got 9 spots higher? St Joe's as tourney champ had 3 fewer losses than UConn and only got 4 spots higher? Temple had 1 more loss than VCU and got 2 spots higher? You can not say that the committee respected the A10 better than the AAC at all whatsoever...... Because they obviously didn't.

Also regarding the RPI- it's obvious the committee doesn't look at it anywhere near as much as they used to. I mean #72 Syracuse not only made it but made it not in the FF. That's the clearest thing out there.....

The problem is, you act as if they got it correct???? Really? Even Xavier fans are incensed on their board at some of this (and stunningly I agree with them for once and am in their corner). You can post what the committee did all you want; it doesn't make it right. Duke shouldn't be a 4 seed, Syracuse, Michigan and Tulsa have no business in over SBU or Monmouth.
You act like every pick had some real basketball data behind it; I'm saying there are very much other factors (like money and favors) being used in the "data".

EVERY single P5 school in the Top 54 of the RPI got in.....8 non P5 schools in the Top 54 of the RPI did not get in. Your argument, to be proven right, simply is to say "well, the committee got this one right for once". You and I both know that's not true. I'm out; I'll let the rest of you debate this.

[Xudash]

one thing, it does feel to some degree like this year is a turning point in the battle between the AAC and the A10. AAC getting 4 in- 3 of them easily while the A10 only gets 3 in- 1st time that's happened.

Dayton was #26 this year at 25-7
St Joe's was #32 this year at 27-7
but then....
Cincy was #35 this year at 22-9
UConn was #36 this year at 24-10
Temple was #38 this year at 21-11
VCU was #40 this year at 24-10
and Tulsa gets in over St Bonnies...

So Temple wins 6 fewer games, but is only 6 spots behind St Joe's.

The question will be is this a 1 year blip, or is it the start of a trend....

The thing is I think the F5 and BE feel like the AAC is more like them than the A10 is quite frankly....

interested to get folks thoughts here on this....

C'mon Steven....you know good and well the A10 was better this year....again. Tulsa is a complete joke to get in this thing while SBU has the 2nd highest RPI to never get an invite. If you an ounce of basketball knowledge in your head and any integrity you'll admit the A10 should have had 4 in this; and Tulsa (in 0/57 brackets on bracket matrix) should have been left out. It's not a trend; it's utter insanity and a pay off from a committee member to Tulsa.

if you are wondering how Tulsa got in ... it was in the bag. No one had Tulsa projected in a bracket

Joe Fedorowicz ‏@JoeFedorowicz
Ready for this? Tulsa AD is good friends with head of selection committee, and hired him at Missouri for his first job. #ItsTrue #TotalBS

The A10 is weak. It's conference champion pinned down a whopping 8 Seed. Whether anyone believes that SBU should have been in over Tulsa or not, or should have been in over some other program, the fact remains that the Bonnies weren't good enough to make the Tournament.

A conference comprised of 14 teams that manages to only get 3 teams into the Dance has no room to complain.

And what makes you think you can come onto this board to discuss the A10, given how you used to treat and probably still treat any Xavier fan that bothers to show up on the A10 board?

[stever20]

1 thing for sure, the RPI is dead as a useful tool...
Syracuse at 72- worst one ever to make the tourney....
with 7 others in the 51-71 range to make the tourney at large....

[stever20]

Dance card struggled.... I count 4 misses...
Vandy
Wichita
Tulsa
Syracuse

St Bonaventure
Florida
St Mary's
San Diego St

[HoosierPal]

Dance card struggled.... I count 4 misses...
Vandy
Wichita
Tulsa
Syracuse

St Bonaventure
Florida
St Mary's
San Diego St

St. Bonnie got royally shafted.

This may be the worst job of selecting the field EVER.

[XUFan09]

Dance card struggled.... I count 4 misses...
Vandy
Wichita
Tulsa
Syracuse

St Bonaventure
Florida
St Mary's
San Diego St

The Dance Card was good for awhile even when they stuck with the old RPI formula after it was changed. These past two years haven't been very good to it, though, and seem to indicate that the Committee is moving farther away from how they evaluated teams a few years ago.

[stever20]

Dance card struggled.... I count 4 misses...
Vandy
Wichita
Tulsa
Syracuse

St Bonaventure
Florida
St Mary's
San Diego St

The Dance Card was good for awhile even when they stuck with the old RPI formula after it was changed. These past two years haven't been very good to it, though, and seem to indicate that the Committee is moving farther away from how they evaluated teams a few years ago.

yep. Florida seems like one that if they had used the new RPI they would have never selected....

[Jet915]

Dance card struggled.... I count 4 misses...
Vandy
Wichita
Tulsa
Syracuse

St Bonaventure
Florida
St Mary's
San Diego St

Last couple of years, there weren't any super horrible picks, but this year, the committee really messed up imo.

[HoosierPal]

Conspiracy theory: P5 is planting the seeds for their own tourney, down the road. Vandy, Syracuse, and Michigan....no, no, no. Start nibbling a little very year. Then pull the rug out, BANG.