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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby stever20 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:04 pm

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cu blujs wrote:Just looked at Realtime RPI and BE is No. 1 with the second best SOS.


I just looked at this. Guess which conference SOS is #1? Independents with 1 team...NJIT. It is currently ranked 3rd behind the BE and Big 12.

NJIT isn't independent. The site isn't accurate. It takes the average of all 10 RPI or SOS, instead of compiling everyone together like pretty much every other site does.
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby NJRedman » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:17 pm

ivet wrote:
cu blujs wrote:Just looked at Realtime RPI and BE is No. 1 with the second best SOS.


I just looked at this. Guess which conference SOS is #1? Independents with 1 team...NJIT. It is currently ranked 3rd behind the BE and Big 12.


I thought NJIT joined a conference?
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby FriarJ » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:33 pm

stever20 wrote:
ivet wrote:
cu blujs wrote:Just looked at Realtime RPI and BE is No. 1 with the second best SOS.


I just looked at this. Guess which conference SOS is #1? Independents with 1 team...NJIT. It is currently ranked 3rd behind the BE and Big 12.

NJIT isn't independent. The site isn't accurate. It takes the average of all 10 RPI or SOS, instead of compiling everyone together like pretty much every other site does.


Well we know this, realtime, yahoo and cbs all use the RPI formula that the NCAA uses. Right now the BE looks great under the correct formula which is why you certainly don't use it.
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby stever20 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:48 pm

Realtime is taking the average of the 10 teams RPI. That's not how you do it. You take the 10 teams numbers together(like they were 1 team) and compute off of that. When the site still has NJIT as indy- that tells you all you need to know about the site.

Right now BE is #2.
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby FriarJ » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:41 pm

True, I wasnt referring to conference rankings but team rankings, which you refused to use for instance in your envisioned AAC vs. BE challenge.
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby stever20 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:59 pm

FriarJ wrote:True, I wasnt referring to conference rankings but team rankings, which you refused to use for instance in your envisioned AAC vs. BE challenge.


The team rankings I used were from Ken Pom yesterday.
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby Edrick » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:14 pm

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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby Jet915 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:00 am

#1 Conference in RPI per Warren Nolan.


Rating Percentage Index Non-Conference
Conference RPI Rank W - L Win Pct Best Team
Big East 0.5895 1 57 - 18 0.7600 Villanova
Big 12 0.5871 2 52 - 13 0.8000 Iowa State
Pac 12 0.5805 3 63 - 20 0.7590 Utah
ACC 0.5785 4 83 - 28 0.7477 Duke
SEC 0.5609 5 71 - 29 0.7100 South Carolina
Big Ten 0.5609 6 79 - 34 0.6991 Purdue
Atlantic 10 0.5557 7 68 - 30 0.6939 Davidson
Mountain West 0.5545 8 45 - 27 0.6250 UNLV
American 0.5371 9 51 - 29 0.6375 SMU
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:09 am

this week was huge. Getting the wins by Butler and Georgetown just big. Also PC made a pretty good KP jump from 46 to 42 beating RI(they only had a 33% chance in KP of winning). And I'll say this. DePaul impressed me today in the few minutes that I saw. They had started sluggish but they had an intensity about them that I havent' seen in years. turn around and win by 24. Next Saturday a game that is huge for them- they play Arkansas Little Rock. You say wow- it's UALR. Well, they are 5-0 and currently #13 in RPI(I know still early).

What I was saying before was that the start was nice- but that a lot of the OOC work still had to get done. This week IMO was WAY more impressive than the first 2. If only PC could have gotten MSU!
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Re: Truth about the Big East start

Postby marquette » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:24 am

Jet915 wrote:#1 Conference in RPI per Warren Nolan.


Rating Percentage Index Non-Conference
Conference RPI Rank W - L Win Pct Best Team
Big East 0.5895 1 57 - 18 0.7600 Villanova
Big 12 0.5871 2 52 - 13 0.8000 Iowa State
Pac 12 0.5805 3 63 - 20 0.7590 Utah
ACC 0.5785 4 83 - 28 0.7477 Duke
SEC 0.5609 5 71 - 29 0.7100 South Carolina
Big Ten 0.5609 6 79 - 34 0.6991 Purdue
Atlantic 10 0.5557 7 68 - 30 0.6939 Davidson
Mountain West 0.5545 8 45 - 27 0.6250 UNLV
American 0.5371 9 51 - 29 0.6375 SMU


How weird to have a team that's ineligible for the postseason be your #1. Craziness.
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