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Postby LetsgoX1 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:50 am

RedStormHoops wrote:
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xsteve1 wrote:SJU outplayed X in every way and really deserved to win. X lucky to survive. Hopefully a wake up call because the last 3 road efforts for X have been ugly.


Ugly win but X got the stops when they needed to.



You can really see what not having Sumner does to them. Disjointed at times, make some bad passes, just not as crisp. A true freshmen already has that much impact on your team, congrats, you got yourselves a very very good one


Technically Sumner is a Redshirt Freshman, not a true Freshman. He played in 6 games last season before red shirting so this is his second year at Xavier and in the program.
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Postby BEhomer » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:38 am

RedStormHoops wrote:Good fight by St. John's. Lost a ton of respect for Bluiett tonight. What a flopper. Throwing his head back every time a defender comes with in a few feet of him. Play the game.


as a 3rd party, i can definitely see why he might get under opposing teams' skins. but you have to admit that's the kind of player you would love to have on your team. i think he and davis carried them down the stretch. Bluiett was in on almost every key play. offensive board, steal, getting to the foul line. he showed a lot of toughness and still only a sophomore. bodes well for X going forward. just disappointed i'm not seeing that kind of effort from other highly touted sophomores in BE.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby NJRedman » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:12 pm

BEhomer wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Good fight by St. John's. Lost a ton of respect for Bluiett tonight. What a flopper. Throwing his head back every time a defender comes with in a few feet of him. Play the game.


as a 3rd party, i can definitely see why he might get under opposing teams' skins. but you have to admit that's the kind of player you would love to have on your team. i think he and davis carried them down the stretch. Bluiett was in on almost every key play. offensive board, steal, getting to the foul line. he showed a lot of toughness and still only a sophomore. bodes well for X going forward. just disappointed i'm not seeing that kind of effort from other highly touted sophomores in BE.


Flopping is now toughness?
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby anXUfan » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:23 pm

I thought X got hesitant after getting a few shots blocked. That reluctance to attack the basket then snowballed into a bigger problem when they faced SJU's press. You have to make a pressing team pay for their gamble. X was happy to just work the ball over the half line.

X also seemed lazy on the boards and slow on defense. Rebounding and defense are things you're supposed to be able to count on to win on the road. This was a sad display.

I can't wait for Sumner's return. He's not a cure-all, but he brings a lot of what X is currently missing.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby BEhomer » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:45 pm

NJRedman wrote:
BEhomer wrote:
RedStormHoops wrote:Good fight by St. John's. Lost a ton of respect for Bluiett tonight. What a flopper. Throwing his head back every time a defender comes with in a few feet of him. Play the game.


as a 3rd party, i can definitely see why he might get under opposing teams' skins. but you have to admit that's the kind of player you would love to have on your team. i think he and davis carried them down the stretch. Bluiett was in on almost every key play. offensive board, steal, getting to the foul line. he showed a lot of toughness and still only a sophomore. bodes well for X going forward. just disappointed i'm not seeing that kind of effort from other highly touted sophomores in BE.


Flopping is now toughness?


well he flopped after he got the loose ball and after he got the tough offensive board.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby ChestRockwell85 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:51 pm

SJHooper wrote:If this was next year, St. John's wins this game. I'm ok with the technical. Extremely tough given the timing, but you can't slam the ball like that. Learning experience for Mussini. Expected us to be down about 30. Shocked to see that we made it a 1 pt game and had momentum until that awful tech. Sima was out for much of the 2nd half if not all. Can't even remember. So basically we took X down to the wire without 1 player who would start on any Big East team. That's impressive to me. None of our truly high caliber recruits are here yet. These are the role players that you see playing this year. Guys that will be on the bench next year and the year after. The skill is not there, the athleticism is not there, but the one thing Mullin brings that Lavin did not is toughness and grit. Lavin teams tended to lay down more.

To be honest, if we beat X it would have been atrocious for the conference. People would be saying X has no business being a top 10 team and that our conference is overrated. Not to mention killing their RPI and ranking. So it was the perfect medium, we showed lots of effort and fight, but they won in the end as they should have.

Good game by X, still weird not seeing Stainbrook. I'm so used to it. It always amused me to see a doofy white guy playing so well LOL.


Not for nothing but everybody knows St. John's will be better next year with guys like Lovett, Ponds, Owens, etc. on the court. Everybody who doesn't have their head up their own arses also realize that to say this is a "rebuilding year" for St. John's is an understatement. Mullin was left with friggin' NOTHING. If the guy didn't win a game in the Big East all year he still gets a pass as far as I'm concerned. With that being said, the whole, "if this was last year" or "if this was next year" type arguments are crap. No offense. SJU played very well against a great Xavier team and you should be very happy with that.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby XU-XHI » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:52 pm

Well Bluiett did grow up in Indiana watching Butler play and we all know flopping has been raised to an art form there. :)
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby NJRedman » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:11 pm

BEhomer wrote:
NJRedman wrote:
BEhomer wrote:
as a 3rd party, i can definitely see why he might get under opposing teams' skins. but you have to admit that's the kind of player you would love to have on your team. i think he and davis carried them down the stretch. Bluiett was in on almost every key play. offensive board, steal, getting to the foul line. he showed a lot of toughness and still only a sophomore. bodes well for X going forward. just disappointed i'm not seeing that kind of effort from other highly touted sophomores in BE.


Flopping is now toughness?


well he flopped after he got the loose ball and after he got the tough offensive board.


He would initiate contact then throw back his head like Mike Tyson just upper cut him. Then he would walk into SJU players who were standing still and act like someone just threw a shoulder into him. I know all you guys were on us for playing dirty the last few years but have no issue with that. A top ten team needs to do that to beat us? Thats sad.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:31 pm

I love how, now that we are in the thick of conference play, that fan bases have short fuses with each other. :evil:

Hatred for opposing players & coaches and general smack talking is on the rise on HLOH. Gone is the "we are all in this together as BE brethren" talk. Love it.

SHU fans hate Josh Hart; Nova fans think Macura and Reynolds are punks; SJU fans think Blueitt is a flopper; X fans think Jay Wright rewards dirty play. I guess the BE "family" camaraderie is gone until the tourney when we'll (hopefully) be back pulling for each other.
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Re: Wed 1/6 games

Postby ecasadoSBU » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:05 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:I love how, now that we are in the thick of conference play, that fan bases have short fuses with each other. :evil:

Hatred for opposing players & coaches and general smack talking is on the rise on HLOH. Gone is the "we are all in this together as BE brethren" talk. Love it.

SHU fans hate Josh Hart; Nova fans think Macura and Reynolds are punks; SJU fans think Blueitt is a flopper; X fans think Jay Wright rewards dirty play. I guess the BE "family" camaraderie is gone until the tourney when we'll (hopefully) be back pulling for each other.


That's how it 'pose to be. You gotta get the hate going. Its conference season! When the NCAA comes around with gotta switch gears and root for ALL teams
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