Jan. 1, 2019. (1) Big East Game

[Amase2]

I don't wanna complain about the refs too much but there's been some BS and I think SJU is getting a some makeup calls for the other day.

Theo did not hook or push on that post up
Howard did not travel that should've been an and 1 from 3

You didnt think that was a travel?

[MullinMayhem]

Complaints about refs which are totally subjective in a 20 pt blowout which would not change the outcome at all

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Complaints about refs which are totally objective and directly resulted in a loss instead of a win 100% because of the ref mistakes. The league literally put out a statement admitting they stole a game from us with their awful ref.

It doesn't matter what happened before the 3 seconds in the SHU game, because that's a win 99.9% of the time with most competent refs. It will be remembered for decades. Marquette lost because of the quickness and length of our guards all over Howard and couldn't contain ours. If you want to get technical, a MU player dunked in garbage time and hung on the rim. Simon has gotten a tech for that during a game, you guys got away with that. Do we really want to go there? Also got away with several walks especially one of the Hauser bros. Theo also lowered his shoulder and knocked into one of our players who went down and there was no call. So don't give me the ref BS. Wrong game for that. The hungrier team won, simple. That doesn't mean Marquette isn't a good team...you guys will be fine. But to bring refs up in any capacity is insane in a blowout from start to finish. Even the 1st half score was misleading. By the way, to correct myself Theo did not push Ponds, but he had his arm and tried ripping the ball out after the play and was blocking him trying to intimidate him. Then Ponds pushed him. Theo initiated the aggression but Ponds should not have pushed. Double T...that's the right call there.

If Marquette would have gone to zone or if they would have focused on an inside game instead of raining 3's when they kept clanking, it would have been a very different game. Surprised you guys didn't use your size to your advantage. Would have had tons of easy layups and dunks.

[NJRedman]

GTFOH with the delay of game BS. Also your boy had Ponds arm and ball. But yeah thats why you lost by 20 points some delay of games and a late game double T. Yup, those refs sure were out to get you tonight. hahaha I'm sure there will be a public statement from the league about how the refs screwed you guys in a couple of days. Just wait for it.

I've literally said three Times we sucked and didn't show up. How thick are you? Or do they not require reading comprehension over there? The game was not called evenly and Marquette sucked. It lead to a blow out. If game is called evenly you guys still win, which I've said, I'm upset because the love you guys got from the refs took us from just not showing up and losing to getting completely embarrassed. Jesus it's like talking to a 12yr old that can only comprehend one argument at a time.

Also, you guys lost to SHU because you choked away a 14pt lead not because of one late call. Literally do anything else right and you guys win.

Yeah everyone is a 12 year old but not the guy crying about the refs.

[billyfa]

GTFOH with the delay of game BS. Also your boy had Ponds arm and ball. But yeah thats why you lost by 20 points some delay of games and a late game double T. Yup, those refs sure were out to get you tonight. hahaha I'm sure there will be a public statement from the league about how the refs screwed you guys in a couple of days. Just wait for it.

I've literally said three Times we sucked and didn't show up. How thick are you? Or do they not require reading comprehension over there? The game was not called evenly and Marquette sucked. It lead to a blow out. If game is called evenly you guys still win, which I've said, I'm upset because the love you guys got from the refs took us from just not showing up and losing to getting completely embarrassed. Jesus it's like talking to a 12yr old that can only comprehend one argument at a time.

Also, you guys lost to SHU because you choked away a 14pt lead not because of one late call. Literally do anything else right and you guys win.

Stop with the choking away the lead. Whether St. John's choked away a lead or not had nothing to do with the fact that St. John's SHOULD have (they didn't) won the game. Even with choking away the lead, without the ref making a horrendous mistake Seton Hall doesn't win that game. There would have been no time left and St. John's would have won. Without the bad call, we'd be talking about how LJ won a game by blocking a shot with 3 seconds left and then stealing a ball to clinch it.

[Hall2012]

Eh, I'd have still given it about 10% odds that Heron gets fouled, misses more free throws and Powell hits from half court for the win lol

[billyfa]

Eh, I'd have still given it about 10% odds that Heron gets fouled, misses more free throws and Powell hits from half court for the win lol

Ha fair enough...

[Hall2012]

Eh, I'd have still given it about 10% odds that Heron gets fouled, misses more free throws and Powell hits from half court for the win lol

Ha fair enough...

Though I'm sure even that would've been easier for you guys to swallow than what actually played out.

[adoraz]

Eh, I'd have still given it about 10% odds that Heron gets fouled, misses more free throws and Powell hits from half court for the win lol

Eh, I think he had plenty of space to run out the clock... but Hall may have fouled with about 1.5 seconds left.

I know UK hit that insane shot against you guys with a little less than 2 seconds left, but that type of shot probably is only made 1/several hundred attempts. I thought Nova's title winning play with like 3.7 seconds left was impressive, but man that UK shot was something else.

So I'd say maybe 1% chance SJU loses if the whistle wasn't blown, being generous. If the whistle was blown and St. John's got possession back, then maybe a 5% chance they lose.

[Hall2012]

Eh, I'd have still given it about 10% odds that Heron gets fouled, misses more free throws and Powell hits from half court for the win lol

Eh, I think he had plenty of space to run out the clock... but Hall may have fouled with about 1.5 seconds left.

I know UK hit that insane shot against you guys with a little less than 2 seconds left, but that type of shot probably is only made 1/several hundred attempts. I thought Nova's title winning play with like 3.7 seconds left was impressive, but man that UK shot was something else.

So I'd say maybe 1% chance SJU loses if the whistle wasn't blown, being generous. If the whistle was blown and St. John's got possession back, then maybe a 5% chance they lose.

While acknowledging the slight possibility of that happening my post was mainly in jest. But while we're here - I agree there's no guarantee they'd have been able to foul Heron. It's impossible to really tell if/when it could have have happened because (naturally) everyone stopped at the whistle. At that point the clock is what matters - if they could get Powell a decent look from around half court, I wouldn't rule it out. Certainly not good odds though.

As far as SJU getting the ball back, once the whistle was blown there simply wasn't any scenario in which it could happen(as unfair as that sounds). In terms of game time, anything that happened after the whistle didn't happen - even though we could all clearly see what "would have" happened. Once the whistle was blown, the refs' hands were tied.

[REDMEN1415]

GTFOH with the delay of game BS. Also your boy had Ponds arm and ball. But yeah thats why you lost by 20 points some delay of games and a late game double T. Yup, those refs sure were out to get you tonight. hahaha I'm sure there will be a public statement from the league about how the refs screwed you guys in a couple of days. Just wait for it.

I've literally said three Times we sucked and didn't show up. How thick are you? Or do they not require reading comprehension over there? The game was not called evenly and Marquette sucked. It lead to a blow out. If game is called evenly you guys still win, which I've said, I'm upset because the love you guys got from the refs took us from just not showing up and losing to getting completely embarrassed. Jesus it's like talking to a 12yr old that can only comprehend one argument at a time.

Also, you guys lost to SHU because you choked away a 14pt lead not because of one late call. Literally do anything else right and you guys win.

If the ref didn't screw up, that play never happens and most likely nobody would be saying that SJU choked.